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On Thursday, April 11, 2019 9:05 AM, Aki Tuomi <aki.tu...@open-xchange.com> 
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> > On 11 April 2019 11:02 Laura Smith via dovecot dovecot@dovecot.org wrote:
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> > On Thursday, April 11, 2019 12:55 AM, John Fawcett via dovecot 
> > dovecot@dovecot.org wrote:
> >
> > > On 11/04/2019 00:51, Laura Smith via dovecot wrote:
> > >
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> > > > On Wednesday, April 10, 2019 11:48 PM, John Fawcett via dovecot 
> > > > dovecot@dovecot.org wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > On 11/04/2019 00:18, Laura Smith via dovecot wrote:
> > > > >
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> > > > > > On Wednesday, April 10, 2019 10:24 PM, Aki Tuomi 
> > > > > > aki.tu...@open-xchange.com wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On 10 April 2019 23:56 Laura Smith via dovecot < 
> > > > > > > > dovecot@dovecot.org> wrote:
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> > > > > > > > On Wednesday, April 10, 2019 9:14 PM, Aki Tuomi < 
> > > > > > > > aki.tu...@open-xchange.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > On 10 April 2019 23:13 Laura Smith via dovecot 
> > > > > > > > > > dovecot@dovecot.org wrote:
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> > > > > > > > > > On Wednesday, April 10, 2019 8:20 PM, Aki Tuomi 
> > > > > > > > > > aki.tu...@open-xchange.com wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > On 10 April 2019 22:13 Laura Smith via dovecot 
> > > > > > > > > > > > dovecot@dovecot.org wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > On Wednesday, April 10, 2019 7:57 PM, Aki Tuomi 
> > > > > > > > > > > > aki.tu...@open-xchange.com wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 10 April 2019 21:26 Laura Smith via dovecot 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > dovecot@dovecot.org wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==========================================================================
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > dsync( foo...@example.com): Error: 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > imapc(foobar.example.com:993): 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > dns_lookup(foobar.example.com) failed: 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > read(/var/run/dovecot/dns-client) failed: 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > read(size=512) failed: Connection reset by peer
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is dovecot's internal dns-client, and 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > something goes wrong when talking to the service.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > dsync( foo...@example.com): Error: Failed to 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > initialize user: imapc: Login to foobar.example.com 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > failed: Disconnected from server
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is btw dsync service, not imap service.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > ===============================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Initially I thought "oh no, not another AppArmor 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > block".
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > But then surely the second message would not appear 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > if the DNS lookup was not successful ?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also "dig foobar.example.com" works fine.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > How should I be troubleshooting this ? And if it is 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > still likely to be AppArmor, what is calling it ? 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > "doveadm" itself or something else ? What does 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > "/var/run/dovecot/dns-client" do and why doesn't 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > dovecot use standard OS calls like everyone else ?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Because the "standard OS call" is blocking and we 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > would prefer it to not block everything else.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > So many questions !
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Aki
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for your reply, but both those message are 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > generated from a simple :
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > doveadm -v -o mail_fsync=never backup -R -u 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > foo...@example.com imapc:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > So I don't know what you mean about dsync service 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > failing ? Surely the DNS lookup succeeded if the 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 'dsync service' failed due to remote disconnect ?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm still none the wiser as to where to start 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > looking for troubleshoting ?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Did you check dovecot logs? Maybe there is 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > something useful?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Aki
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Only the same old cryptic message about dns-client ?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > master: Fatal: execv(/usr/lib/dovecot/dns-client) 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > failed: Permission denied
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Something prevents executing the dns-client binary.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > master: Error: service(dns_client): command startup 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > failed, throttling for 16 secs
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > dns_client: Fatal: master: service(dns_client): 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > child 14293 returned error 84 (exec() failed)
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Aki
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes but is it being called by doveadm directly or 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > by some other dovecot program ? If I'm going to 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > have to go down the AppArmor route, then I would 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > prefer if you told me what was calling it instead 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > of me having to un-necessarily spend time doing 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > straces !
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also, should I be able to call dns-client directly 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > myself ? (or is there a way to do so to enable 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > testing ?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is started by dovecot's master process when you 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > connect to dns-client unix socket. You can try
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > socat stdio unix-connect:/var/run/dovecot/dns-client
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I thought apparmor tells when something is blocked 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > into kernel log? have you checked dmesg?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Apologies for your frustration.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Yeah nothing in dmesg.  I'm still hunting around to find some log 
> > > > > > somewhere but so far silence.
> > > > > > "socat stdio unix-connect:/var/run/dovecot/dns-client" runs but 
> > > > > > returns nothing. Is that expected ?
> > > > > > When you say "dovecot's master process", so  doveadm sync talks to 
> > > > > > the master process ?  So in terms of apparmor I would therefore be 
> > > > > > looking at /usr/sbin/dovecot ?  If that's the case, the relevant 
> > > > > > apparmor permisssions are already provided :
> > > > > >   /{,var/}run/dovecot/ rw,
> > > > > >   /{,var/}run/dovecot/** rw,
> > > > > > Laura
> > > > >
> > > > > Do the above apparmor settings give permission to dovecot to execute
> > > > > /usr/lib/dovecot/dns-client, assuming that the user under which 
> > > > > dovecot
> > > > > is running already has file system permissions to do that?
> > > > > John
> > > >
> > > > John,
> > > > Here's the definitive answer to your question (and anyone else thinking 
> > > > of pointing the finger at apparmor):
> > > > foo:/home/foo # sudo systemctl stop apparmor
> > > > foo:/home/foo # doveadm -v -o mail_fsync=never backup -R -u 
> > > > foo...@example.com imapc:
> > > > dsync(foo...@example.com): Error: imapc(foobar.example.com:993): 
> > > > dns_lookup(foobar.example.com) failed: DNS lookup timed out
> > > > dsync(foo...@example.com): Error: Failed to initialize user: imapc: 
> > > > Login to foobar.example.com failed: Disconnected from server
> > > > So. Can we move on from the "blame apparmor" ? ;-)
> > >
> > > Laura
> > > I'd suggest doing the test with a restart of dovecot in between stopping
> > > apparmor and running the doveadm command. Check your logs to see if
> > > there is no longer any message generated about not being able to execv
> > > /usr/lib/dovecot/dns-client.
> > > foo:/home/foo # sudo systemctl stop apparmor
> > > foo:/home/foo # sudo systemctl restart dovecot
> > > foo:/home/foo # doveadm -v -o mail_fsync=never backup -R -u 
> > > foo...@example.com imapc:
> > > John
> >
> > Same again....
> > failed: read(/var/run/dovecot/dns-client) failed: read(size=512) failed: 
> > Connection reset by peer
>
> And your logs probably indicate that same Fatal error that the service cannot 
> be started?
>
> Wonder if this is caused by systemd? Can you try also
>
> systemctl stop dovecot
> dovecot -F
>
> then try socat and see if it works?
>
> Aki

I get no output om the "dovecot -F" side ? Dovecot launches but no consle 
output, either at launch or in response to my test commands.

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