I’m looking at the docs here:

https://doc.dovecot.org/configuration_manual/mail_location/

There I see:

> Mailbox autocreation
> 
> Dovecot in the 1.x era created mailboxes automatically regardless of whether 
> mail_location was set. In 2.x autocreation only gets triggered if 
> mail_location is correctly set. You’ll see something like this if you enable 
> debug logging:
> 
> …

I’m pretty sure that autocreation is working because the mailbox is in fact 
being created.  And AFAICT it is being created in the right place with the 
right permissions.  Despite this, mail delivery is failing when I use INBOX=…

All of the messages disappearing from my client is also mighty hinky.  The only 
way I can explain that is that dovecot is telling my client that my inbox is no 
longer named Inobx.  If that is the case then this whole approach won’t work 
because that will defeat the purpose.  The whole point of this exercise is to 
get the dovecot LDA to put mail in something OTHER than what the client thinks 
is the main inbox.

On Jan 17, 2021, at 10:04 PM, Aki Tuomi <aki.tu...@open-xchange.com> wrote:

> I don't see how that would the obvious way, and that, as you found out, does 
> cause your mails to disappear.
> 
> Looking at `man dovecot-lda` you'll find
> 
> -m mailbox
> 
> Destination  mailbox (default is INBOX). If the mailbox doesn't exist, it 
> will not be created (unless the lda_mailbox_autocreate setting is set to 
> yes). If a message couldn't be saved to the  mailbox for any reason, it's 
> delivered to INBOX instead.
> 
> Aki
> 
>> On 18/01/2021 04:42 Ron Garret <r...@flownet.com> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> I tried the obvious:
>> 
>> mail_location = maildir:/var/mail/vhosts/%d/%n/mail:INBOX=mail/.Incoming
>> 
>> and that failed in an even more bizarre way.  The Incoming mailbox was 
>> created, it showed up in my mail client as it should have, but mail delivery 
>> still failed.  Not only that, but all the messages that were in my Inbox 
>> disappeared from my mail client.  I reverted the change and all of the 
>> messages that had previously been in Inbox reappeared.
>> 
>> WTF?
>> 
>> On Jan 17, 2021, at 5:00 PM, Ron Garret <r...@flownet.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> I groveled around in the docs and discovered the INBOX=… option to the 
>>> mail_location config parameter.  I tried that, and it didn’t work, but it 
>>> failed in a very strange way.
>>> 
>>> I currently have:
>>> 
>>> mail_location = maildir:/var/mail/vhosts/%d/%n/mail
>>> 
>>> I tried changing that to:
>>> 
>>> mail_location = maildir:/var/mail/vhosts/%d/%n/mail:INBOX=incoming
>>> 
>>> That failed with the following log message:
>>> 
>>> Jan 17 23:41:17 lmtp(s...@rngh.net)<32476><ruDsCB3LBGDcfgAAa/YOzQ>: Error: 
>>> Mailbox INBOX: Failed to autocreate mailbox: Permission denied
>>> 
>>> But the weird thing is that it DID create a directory called incoming, and 
>>> that directory has the same permissions as the rest of the mailbox 
>>> hierarchy.
>>> 
>>> There is something else which I was not expecting, and that is that the 
>>> directory is a peer to /var/mail/vhosts/%d/%n/mail.  What I want is to 
>>> create a folder *inside* /var/mail/vhosts/%d/%n/mail.
>>> 
>>> Advice on how to proceed would be much appreciated.  (BTW, I’d be happy to 
>>> pay someone a consulting fee for help with this project.  If you’re 
>>> interested contact me off-list.)
>>> 
>>> rg
>>> 
>>> On Jan 17, 2021, at 12:08 PM, Ron Garret <r...@flownet.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Is there an easy way (i.e. a built-in configuration setting) to change the 
>>>> name of the mailbox that the dovecot LDA delivers mail into?  The default 
>>>> is INBOX but I’d like mail to be delivered to some other mailbox.  The 
>>>> reason for this is that I want all incoming mail to be invisible to the 
>>>> user by default until it has been screened for viruses and spam.  I know I 
>>>> could do this with Sieve, but that is a PITA.
>>>> 
>>>> More details in case anyone is interested:
>>>> 
>>>> The goal of this filter is to make it work with very little training.  To 
>>>> bootstrap the process, the filter is given access to outgoing mail (via a 
>>>> milter) which it uses as a reliable training corpus for good messages.  It 
>>>> then leverages that information to filter incoming messages.  For example, 
>>>> messages from senders which have been the recipients of outgoing messages 
>>>> are presumed to be good.  There is also a spam honeypot to provide a 
>>>> reliable spam corpus.
>>>> 
>>>> One of the heuristics I want to use is to look for the same subject line 
>>>> in multiple messages from unknown users received over a period of an hour 
>>>> or so because those are almost invariably spam.  But that requires a time 
>>>> delay between when a message is received and when it is filtered, and that 
>>>> in turn requires a place to store messages for a while before they are 
>>>> processed.  While they are in that temporary storage, I don’t want them in 
>>>> the user’s face, but I do want them to be accessible if the user wants to 
>>>> see them (e.g. if they know that an important message is coming in which 
>>>> may be stuck in the temp storage).  So I’d like to make something like an 
>>>> INCOMING mailbox where all mail is delivered.  The messages in INCOMING 
>>>> are scanned by the filter and moved to Junk or INBOX as appropriate.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> rg
>>>> 
>>> 

Reply via email to