"Sindre Torp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> made an utterence to the drakelist gang
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Hello everyone on The Drake List,

I have two TR5 transceivers.

Their serial numbers are 001130, and 110 (hundred and ten).

The serial #110 TR5 has the serial number printed directly on the rear side. This is 
from the preproduction serie. The serial # consist of only three digits: 110.

But the serial #001130 TR5 has the serial printed on a  decal on the rear.

I should have posted this a couple of months ago..... :-)

73,
Sindre Torp, LA6OP


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Subject: [drakelist] Serial Number Fun with the TR5, OR......


> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] made an utterence to the drakelist gang
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> -----> Serial Number Fun with the TR-5 <-----
>                           -or-
>            Down to the Sea in Drake's      
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> 
>   A few weeks ago a mention of the TR-5 on the
> list sparked an idea, or quest, or maybe I was
> just bored at the moment. Since the popular
> thinking was just over 500 TR-5's were built, I 
> thought it might be fun to find out how many I
> could account for.
>                 
>                      So I polled the two Drake
> lists asking for serial numbers of TR-5's owned
> by the members. The story about a large number
> of TR-5's being lost at soon sea surfaced.
> (pun intended)
> 
>   The story goes something like this:
> 
>   Once Upon a time, (sorry couldn't resist)
>    the Drake company filled a large order
> of TR-5's to the Government of South America.
>  Reported to be over 100 units, perhaps as
> many as 200. The ship that was loaded with the
> TR-5's was lost at Sea, sunk in bad storm.
> 
>  I have heard variations of this, but the end
> was the same, about 100 Brand New TR-5's
> lost forever at the bottom of the Ocean.
> 
>        A fellow Drake list reader remarked
> that the story was true and had been confirmed.
> 
>   Now I had a mission, would gathering serial
> numbers reveal the missing units and shore up
> the story. Clearly I thought that if a large 
> number of radio's were sent on one order
> they would be consecutive serial numbers.
> 
>    Early on I had received 8 serial numbers 
> from list users and had 5 more from WB4HFN's
> Serial Number Web Page, plus my TR-5 for
> a total of 14 good numbers. Not many but
> it was a good spread from 1038 to 1506.
> (TR-5 production began at 1001)
> Right away I noticed a large gap in the 
> numbers, nothing between 1167 and 1288!
> 
> Was this gap possibly the missing TR-5's?
> 
>   A few more numbers came in the next day,
> all outside the black hole of missing Drake's.
>   
>   How clever I thought I was, Also this 
> might mean that there was only 400 or so
> TR-5's left, making them even more rare.
> 
>   Then it happened, Like a MOAB on target,
> but this was the MOASN! And not just one,
> the next day the gap was gone, 1207, then
> 1240 and if that wasn't enough 1232 arrived.
>  
>    My Theory was Dashed on the Rocks!
> 
>    Now I have 25 TR-5 serial numbers, and
> from 1038 to 1514 the biggest hole is only
> 48. This is with less than 4 percent known
> to exist TR-5's but would indicate that a 
> large number in one group, such as the
> missing 100 might not be missing at all.
> 
>   I did do one more bit of looking for 
> information, Yes I even asked the 
> R.L. Drake Company. 
> 
> I sent an e-mail to John Kriner of the
> Drake Service Department. 
> Here is his reply:
> 
> >The boat sinking story is one I never heard, but this does not mean it     <
> >isn't true.  I am forwarding your mail to Mr. Frost at Drake.  Perhaps he < 
> >knows if the story is true.                                                  
>                   <
> 
> From Bill Frost:
> 
> >I have to agree with John, I have never heard           <
> > of a large number of TR-5 being sold into                <
> >South America.  In fact, I can't remember a large      < 
> >number of TR-5's being sold to anyone.                      <
> >The sales of the TR-5 were nothing like we had      <
> >hoped.                                                                       
>          <
> 
> >I remember we sold several of the TR-4305               <
> >transceivers into South America to missionaries   <
> >etc.  They liked the simplicity, the fixed channel     <
> >operation and the reliability.  The TR-4305 was      <
> >basically a TR-5 without the VFO.                              <
>                                         
>   It would seem to me at this point that the story
> of the missing TR-5's lost at sea is just that.
> A story.  Perhaps there is some truth to it,
> but certainly not 200 or 100 or even 50 TR-5's.
>  Yes, I do realize that they wouldn't have to
> be consecutive serial numbers, but one would
> think that if the factory lost a boat load, they
> would remember. Anyway it was fun to play the
> numbers. 
> 
> TR-5 Facts:
> 
>     1 perhaps 2 engineering prototypes with no S/N were built.
> 
>    10 preproduction TR-5's  0001 to 0010
> 
>    516 Production TR-5's  001001 to 001516
> 
>    For a total of 528 Factory built TR-5's, out there,
>    somewhere.
> 
> Plus a little Duck told me one more was built
> from NOS parts just for fun long after
> the factory stopped production.
> 
> Many Thanks to all that have sent in their
> TR-5 Serial Numbers, and a special thanks
> to John Kriner, Bill Frost and John Loughmiller.
> 
> And I'm still looking! 
> 
>  If you own a TR-5, please send in your Serial Number 
> so I can add you to the list. 
> 
> 73
> 
> Jim Snell - W8DRZ
> 
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