Dave--If you are interested in receiving WWV, it's possible using  a stock 
R-4B.  Check out this link 
_http://www.dproducts.be/drake_museum/03_1971_pdf.htm_ 
(http://www.dproducts.be/drake_museum/03_1971_pdf.htm)  from  The 
Drake Virtual Museum website.  It states: "It is possible to receive  the 5-MHZ 
transmission from WWV on a Drake R-4A by setting the band switch to  3.5 
MHz, the tuning dial to 3.6325 MHz, a n d t h e p r e s e l e c t o r t o 4  0 
m e t e r s . The s e c o n d harmonic of the VFO beats with the 5-MHZ WWV  
signal to produce a signal at the first i-f. ~ Donald R. Stickle, K2OXP"   
This technique works fine on my B line.  Of course, the 41 meter SW  
broadcasting band is "free."  73, Tony N3WAK
 
 
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2. Re: Improving Drake R-4B (Garey  Barrell)
3. Re: Improving Drake R-4B (Richard  Knoppow)


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Message:  1
Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2010 14:32:46 -0800 (PST)
From: Dave  <kaise...@yahoo.com>
To: drakelist@zerobeat.net
Subject:  [Drakelist] Improving Drake R-4B
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I just bought a stock Drake  R-4B.

Suggestions on how I should upgrade/improve this rig and how to  determine 
what 
crystals and filters I need for AM reception would be  appreciated. In the 
1970s 
I had a Drake C-line station and a chart that  told me what crystals I 
needed to 
install to hear WWV and foreign  broadcasts.


Dave Kaiser, AL7HG
Crystal River, FL  34428
www.FloridaPublishing.com 
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Date: Thu, 02 Dec 2010 17:54:58 -0500
From: Garey Barrell  <k4...@mindspring.com>
To: Dave <kaise...@yahoo.com>
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Subject: Re: [Drakelist] Improving Drake  R-4B
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Dave -

Not much  needed.  The AM filter is a bit of a problem, as the 'B' has no  
optional filter capability.  It 'MIGHT' be possible to bypass the  
Passband Tuner and rely on the 'roofing' filter in the 1st IF which is a  
6 kHz wide half-lattice filter.  The widest b/w for the Passband  Tuner 
is 4.8 kHz which is fine for picking off ONE sideband of an AM  signal.

There is a crystal chart in the manual, but all you need to do  is add 
11.1 MHz to the frequency you want at the bottom of a band.   WWV and 30M 
would be 10.0 MHz plus 11.1 equals a 21.1 MHz crystal.   International 
Crystal Mfg has all the info, just tell them what frequency  you want to 
listen to.

73, Garey - K4OAH
Glen Allen,  VA

Drake 2-B, 2-C/2-NT, 4-B, C-Line&
TR-4/C Service Supplement  CDs
<www.k4oah.com>


Dave wrote:
> I just bought a  stock Drake R-4B.
>
> Suggestions on how I should upgrade/improve  this rig and how to 
> determine what crystals and filters I need for AM  reception would be 
> appreciated. In the 1970s I had a Drake C-line  station and a chart 
> that told me what crystals I needed to install to  hear WWV and foreign 
> broadcasts.
> Dave Kaiser, AL7HG
>  Crystal River, FL 34428
> www.FloridaPublishing.com  <http://www.FloridaPublishing.com>
>



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Message:  3
Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2010 18:12:59 -0800
From: "Richard Knoppow"  <1oldle...@ix.netcom.com>
To: <k4...@mindspring.com>, "Dave"  <kaise...@yahoo.com>
Cc: drakelist@zerobeat.net
Subject: Re:  [Drakelist] Improving Drake R-4B
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Garey  Barrell" <k4...@mindspring.com>
To: "Dave"  <kaise...@yahoo.com>
Cc: <drakelist@zerobeat.net>
Sent:  Thursday, December 02, 2010 2:54 PM
Subject: Re: [Drakelist] Improving  Drake R-4B


> Dave -
>
> Not much needed.  The  AM filter is a bit of a problem, as 
> the 'B' has no optional filter  capability.  It 'MIGHT' be 
> possible to bypass the Passband Tuner  and rely on the 
> 'roofing' filter in the 1st IF which is a 6 kHz wide  
> half-lattice filter.  The widest b/w for the Passband 
>  Tuner is 4.8 kHz which is fine for picking off ONE 
> sideband of an AM  signal.
>
> There is a crystal chart in the manual, but all you  need 
> to do is add 11.1 MHz to the frequency you want at the 
>  bottom of a band.  WWV and 30M would be 10.0 MHz plus 11.1 
>  equals a 21.1 MHz crystal.  International Crystal Mfg has 
> all  the info, just tell them what frequency you want to 
> listen  to.
>
> 73, Garey - K4OAH
> Glen Allen, VA
>
My R4-B sounds OK on the short wave stations it will 
hear (plenty  on 40 meters). Because of the noise level on 
most HF stations really wide  bandwidth is not very 
practical. There are a few very strong ones but  mostly not.
BTW, its often possible to improve reception of  stations 
with severe selective fading by receiving it as an SSB 
signal  using the tunable IF to get rid of the original  
carrier.


--
Richard Knoppow
Los  Angeles
WB6KBL
dickb...@ix.netcom.com





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