Seems like the 2C is the one drawing a lot of dough these days.  And to think I 
sold one last year for under $100 (I paid $65 for it).

Of course, it doesn't sound nearly as Shakespearean...

Steve Wedge, W1ES/4

I swear by my life, and my love of it, that I will never live for the sake of 
another man, nor ask another man to live for mine.
-Ayn Rand.

All my computers have my signature with various pearls of wisdom appended 
thereto.



From: nigel patterson 
Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2011 12:00 PM
To: drakelist@zerobeat.net 
Subject: Re: [Drakelist] Drakelist Digest, Vol 41, Issue 20


Another one for Steve Wedge: 


2B or not 2B, that is the question - Shakespeare.


Nigel Patterson


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    3. Re: Bias Adjustment on TR4CW (John Brown)
    4. Re: Bias Adjustment on TR4CW (Ron)


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  Message: 1
  Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2011 20:19:57 -0500
  From: "Steve Wedge" <w1es1...@earthlink.net>
  To: "k4eg" <k...@yahoogroups.com>,      "Drake List"
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  Subject: [Drakelist] R-4B is "under contract"
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  My "demodded" Drake R-4B is sold pending payment.

  I'll be looking for more restoration projects at Benson (NC, Nov 20th)!  I 
seem to be settling into working on Drakes and this burden is fitting to me 
well.  I'm considering my "hobby-job" to be finding more tired Drake rigs and 
rejuvenating them.  I'm learning even more as I go, and what I'm making allows 
me to buy even more Drakes to bring back from the dead.

  I've always enjoyed working on Drake gear: there are some aspects that can be 
challenging, but overall, it was well-designed and much more designed for 
serviceability than many other radios of its time.  My shack has felt much more 
a "home" since I've set aside space for a set of Twins.

  Steve Wedge, W1ES/4

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  Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2011 21:53:55 -0500
  From: "Michael A. Kelly" <mkell...@gmail.com>
  To: drakelist@zerobeat.net
  Subject: [Drakelist] Bias Adjustment on TR4CW
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  Question 1:

  Would tube life be extended if I ran my TR4Cw at 108-110 Volts AC
  instead of 120VAC? (All of the 21 tubes, not just the transmitting
  tubes?)  I have access to a  variac and could do it easily.  Has
  anyone else done this?  Obviously output would suffer a bit, but I
  typically run 90-100 watts maximum anyway.  Aside from less possible
  total power output, is there a downside here?

  Question 2:

  When you adjust the PA Bias to 0.1 what exactly is that doing,
  decreasing the voltage similar to a variac? Does it affect all tubes,
  or just the finals?  If so, again, why not turn it down to say 0.009
  instead of 0.1 and again extend tube life?

  Thanks,

  Michael Kelly N4MAK



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  Message: 3
  Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2011 15:31:26 +1100
  From: "John Brown" <brown...@optusnet.com.au>
  To: "'Michael A. Kelly'" <mkell...@gmail.com>,
         <drakelist@zerobeat.net>
  Subject: Re: [Drakelist] Bias Adjustment on TR4CW
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  Reducing the mains input probably wouldn't make any difference to tube life.
  Regarding the bias setting, changing this would only shift the class of
  operating the finals a tad from the design spec if any. Can't see much to be
  gained from doing either. Why not just use the rig and enjoy it?
  JB

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  From: drakelist-boun...@zerobeat.net [mailto:drakelist-boun...@zerobeat.net]
  On Behalf Of Michael A. Kelly
  Sent: Saturday, 12 November 2011 1:54 PM
  To: drakelist@zerobeat.net
  Subject: [Drakelist] Bias Adjustment on TR4CW

  Question 1:

  Would tube life be extended if I ran my TR4Cw at 108-110 Volts AC
  instead of 120VAC? (All of the 21 tubes, not just the transmitting
  tubes?)  I have access to a  variac and could do it easily.  Has
  anyone else done this?  Obviously output would suffer a bit, but I
  typically run 90-100 watts maximum anyway.  Aside from less possible
  total power output, is there a downside here?

  Question 2:

  When you adjust the PA Bias to 0.1 what exactly is that doing,
  decreasing the voltage similar to a variac? Does it affect all tubes,
  or just the finals?  If so, again, why not turn it down to say 0.009
  instead of 0.1 and again extend tube life?

  Thanks,

  Michael Kelly N4MAK

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  Message: 4
  Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2011 04:28:44 -0800 (PST)
  From: Ron <wd8...@yahoo.com>
  To: drakelist@zerobeat.net, "Michael A. Kelly" <mkell...@gmail.com>
  Subject: Re: [Drakelist] Bias Adjustment on TR4CW
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  Q1: It might help some, but it could just as well hurt the tubes.? All tubes 
are rated for a specific filament voltage.? All voltage variations, both above 
and below, specified voltage cause issues.? It is my understanding that 
indirectly heated tube (as are in all the Drakes) are more tolerant of slight 
voltage variations.? Other here have more background and will hopefully comment.

  Q2:? The bias you adjust on the Drakes is just on the finals. It is adjusted 
to make the final tubes amplify in a linear fashion.? Bias is a compromise, 
more bias generally makes the amplification more linear (less distortion) but 
less efficient, while less bias make the amplification more efficient and less 
linear (more distortion).? In the case of the Drakes, it is important to adjust 
the bias to the value that Drake engineered.? Anything outside of that value 
will either cause more "splatter" (distortion) or shorten tube life.?

  73,
  Ron WD8SBB


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  From: Michael A. Kelly <mkell...@gmail.com>
  Subject: [Drakelist] Bias Adjustment on TR4CW
  To: drakelist@zerobeat.net
  Date: Friday, November 11, 2011, 9:53 PM

  Question 1:

  Would tube life be extended if I ran my TR4Cw at 108-110 Volts AC
  instead of 120VAC? (All of the 21 tubes, not just the transmitting
  tubes?)? I have access to a? variac and could do it easily.? Has
  anyone else done this?? Obviously output would suffer a bit, but I
  typically run 90-100 watts maximum anyway.? Aside from less possible
  total power output, is there a downside here?

  Question 2:

  When you adjust the PA Bias to 0.1 what exactly is that doing,
  decreasing the voltage similar to a variac? Does it affect all tubes,
  or just the finals?? If so, again, why not turn it down to say 0.009
  instead of 0.1 and again extend tube life?

  Thanks,

  Michael Kelly N4MAK

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