I am agree.

In any environment (lab, production, critical, etc), if between PVE and LINBIT not has a perfect coordination for publish the updates of packages for that together works perfectly, simply all people will stop using DRBD.

Also, if the plugin(s) of LINBIT not add features as monitor stats for DRBD, and maybe other functions, of sure that with the time, DRBD will be relegated, and it will not be good for the business of LINBIT.

So, I suppose the best thing would be that between PVE and LINBIT talk and study the possibility of has a more close union, remember that the final customer is who determine the tools that be more easy of use and give them more benefits.

BR
Cesar

----- Original Message ----- From: "Enrica Ruedin" <e.rue...@guggach.com>
To: <drbd-user@lists.linbit.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2017 7:02 AM
Subject: Re: [DRBD-user] Testing new DRBD9 dedicated repo for PVE


Hello Dietmar

You confirm exactly what I was afraid of. I fully agree that the package of Linbit's drbdmanage shouldn't be in your package but I don't agree concerning the DRBDPlugin.pm in '/usr/share/perl5/PVE/Storage'. This perl script is the interface between PVE and DRBD. A stable or coordinated versioning between 'PVE package - DRBDPlugin.pm - DRBD package' will be critical.

A version change on Linbit's side or PVE side without adaption of the plugin could hit a stable environment. I don't know who should be the owner/developer of 'DRBDPlugin.pm', but anyway it needs a coordination especially if PVE/DRBD9 is used in production. So I understand Michele's hesitation.

Regards,
Enrica

-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: drbd-user-boun...@lists.linbit.com [mailto:drbd-user-boun...@lists.linbit.com] Im Auftrag von Dietmar Maurer
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 4. Januar 2017 10:20
An: Roland Kammerer <roland.kamme...@linbit.com>; drbd-user@lists.linbit.com
Betreff: Re: [DRBD-user] Testing new DRBD9 dedicated repo for PVE

In the end the license - and sure IANAL - is a "do whatever you like,
but don't interfere with LINBIT's support business". IMO that's it.
This was not a move against Proxmox at all, there are other vendors
not playing nice... Just writing that because on the ML I have the
impression that there is some kind of "Proxmox vs. LINBIT". It isn't.

I fully agree here.

For the "has to remove [...] completely": Puh, dangerous territory to
comment on, but that was the decision of Proxmox.

No, your new license implies that. It would be illegal to provide support (in any way) for drbdmanage.

Besides, it would not make any sense to have two repositories including the same packages - what for?

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