Yeah, that's the main question. I can also remove spam (everyone can) but we should stop the inflow.
>From my point of view the best approach is simply to either: - require manual approval for new users, or - you can register as a user, but admin has to manually grant you editing rights As I'm not and admin I can't do either of the above. This goes a bit against the spirit of wiki, but if the main activity on our wiki currently is that spammers add spam and we manually remove it, then we need to rethink something. henrik On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 1:13 AM, pcrews <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Ivo! > > So it was you whom I was colliding with ; ) > Apologies for the lack of coordination, but once I looked at that spam, I > had to start deleting <g>. > > Not sure where things stand on access rights / additional admins / account > removals. > > Cheers, > Patrick > > > On 02/02/2012 06:08 PM, Ivo Roper wrote: >> >> Hi folks, I'm a friend of Brian and Mark's in Seattle. >> >> I removed roughly a dozen such articles, as far back as mid-2011, and it >> was clear that at least one other person was removing them at the same >> time. There were a few main culprit accounts in the format of >> FirstnameLastname, I don't know if those have been deleted yet. >> >> Thank you for bringing it up! >> >> Ivo >> >> On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 2:23 PM, Henrik >> Ingo<[email protected]>wrote: >> >>> Guys, did anyone actually do anything about this? If you don't have >>> the time to take care of it, then please share admin rights with >>> people that do. >>> >>> henrik >>> >>> On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 10:30 PM, Henrik Ingo<[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hmm... Since I can't see the admin interface it's hard to have any >>>> enlightened opinion, but... >>>> >>>> Isn't there a setting where anyone can register themselves but cannot >>>> actually make edits until an admin gives them more rights / marks them >>>> as verified. I remember many MediaWiki installations have this in >>>> relation to my email verification: I could only edit content after >>>> verifying my email. >>>> >>>> henrik >>>> >>>> On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 11:42 AM, Michael Shadle<[email protected]> >>> >>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Moderating user registrations will require some MW tweaking, and >>>>> plugins if they even exist. I can turn off new user registration, or >>>>> the capability for anyone to make edits, etc quite easily however. But >>>>> then it's more of a "controlled editor" atmosphere than a true wiki, >>>>> but that seems to be plenty useful >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 1:29 AM, Henrik Ingo<[email protected]> >>> >>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> No, the captcha is there but spammers work around it. I'm not sure but >>>>>> I think they simply hire cheap labor in Asia and Africa to manually >>>>>> type in their spam. The only spam-protection that I've found to really >>>>>> work are the services mollom and akismet that do spam-filtering on a >>>>>> global scale, mostly based on the links embedded in a post. I don't >>>>>> know if a plugin to these exists for mediawiki. >>>>>> >>>>>> Since we are not a hyper-active project, it's easier to simply have >>>>>> all accounts blocked until approved. (If you guys are unsure of your >>>>>> attentiveness, please add me as admin. We also want to make sure that >>>>>> proper users are still approved in a timely manner.) >>>>>> >>>>>> Crews: When doing that change, you should consider adding some text >>>>>> that people should write an email to drizzle-discuss after registering >>>>>> on the wiki. The problem is that you'll continue to get spam users >>>>>> registering themselves on a weekly basis, so it will be impossible to >>>>>> notice one or two legitimate ones. The best way is to just ask them to >>>>>> send a ping to the mailing list (what spammers won't do). >>>>>> >>>>>> henrik >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 2:13 AM, Michael Shadle<[email protected]> >>> >>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I thought I changed the settings on there and added captcha stuff at >>> >>> least. Mediawiki is a pile. I don't mind saying it publicly. If anyone >>> knows how to configure it better I am all ears. I need to look to see >>> what >>> I did to it, I had made changes to that around the same time as another >>> wiki and may be getting confused. I had tried a couple anti-spam modules >>> but couldn't even confirm if they were working 100% (see comment about MW >>> being a pile) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Jan 28, 2012, at 3:45 PM, pcrews<[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> There are a number of garbage / spam pages that have been added that >>> >>> we can't delete either. I'm going through to try to blank the content >>> until we can properly remove them. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 01/28/2012 04:38 PM, Henrik Ingo wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> We have been notified by a friendly netizen that our wiki is full >>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>> spam. Indeed: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>> >>> http://wiki.drizzle.org/mediawiki/index.php?title=Special:RecentChanges&days=100 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> http://wiki.drizzle.org/Special:ListUsers >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> There's more spam than normal activity. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I propose that: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> - we change the settings on the wiki such that users must be >>> >>> approved >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> by an administrator before they can post anything. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> - this also makes it possible to remove the captcha stuff (since >>>>>>>>> we >>>>>>>>> can then trust all users) which will greatly enhance usability. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I don't have admin rights so please Mike or someone else do the >>> >>> above urgently. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> We then also need to clean up all the spam. Any help there is >>> >>> welcome. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> henrik >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~drizzle-discuss >>>>>>>> Post to : [email protected] >>>>>>>> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~drizzle-discuss >>>>>>>> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~drizzle-discuss >>>>>>> Post to : [email protected] >>>>>>> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~drizzle-discuss >>>>>>> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>> +358-40-8211286 skype: henrik.ingo irc: hingo >>>>>> www.openlife.cc >>>>>> >>>>>> My LinkedIn profile: http://www.linkedin.com/profile/view?id=9522559 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> [email protected] >>>> +358-40-8211286 skype: henrik.ingo irc: hingo >>>> www.openlife.cc >>>> >>>> My LinkedIn profile: http://www.linkedin.com/profile/view?id=9522559 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> [email protected] >>> +358-40-8211286 skype: henrik.ingo irc: hingo >>> www.openlife.cc >>> >>> My LinkedIn profile: http://www.linkedin.com/profile/view?id=9522559 >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~drizzle-discuss >>> Post to : [email protected] >>> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~drizzle-discuss >>> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >>> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~drizzle-discuss >> Post to : [email protected] >> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~drizzle-discuss >> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > > > > _______________________________________________ > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~drizzle-discuss > Post to : [email protected] > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~drizzle-discuss > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- [email protected] +358-40-8211286 skype: henrik.ingo irc: hingo www.openlife.cc My LinkedIn profile: http://www.linkedin.com/profile/view?id=9522559 _______________________________________________ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~drizzle-discuss Post to : [email protected] Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~drizzle-discuss More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
