On 05/30/2013 02:28 AM, ant elder wrote:
Hi Droids, I'm from the Incubator PMC and doing a review of the older
Incubator poddlings and why they're not graduating. I also happen to be
from the HttpComponents PMC which was the original sponsor of Droids.
Looking about here the only thing holding Droids back is that there not
many active participants. Would that be correct?
Droids has been here such a long time now and the Incubator is not adding
much value. There have been discussions on general@ about what to do with
small poddlings, eg: http://markmail.org/message/vd53bm3fouw7ueow, which
suggests including the mentors on the PMC when graduating to help make up
the numbers. Any comments on that approach?
Who are your mentors these days, and would having any new mentors help? If
so i'd be happy to sign up to see what can be done.
...ant
Ant,
Thanks for the note and offer to help. You are correct, graduation is
for the most part hung up on active participants. Thorsten Scherler and
I are both mentors, on the IPMC, and largely involved in the project. So
in our case, the mentors would want to be on the PMC. We could come up
with a 3 member PMC that would be active and could keep the project
going. I've seen messages from either the IPMC or Board indicating that
a project needs to have three active PMC members so that there can be
legal releases. So in theory we could graduate with a 3 person PMC, and
be successful.
One of the problems we've had is making releases. I've released managed
the two releases. Between Thorsten and I, we have two binding votes, but
it can be hard to get the 3rd IPMC vote, as you've no doubt seen from
other projects as well on the IPMC list. It would be easier for us to do
new releases as a TLP. I understand that the point of releasing through
the IPMC is to make sure everything is correct. With two releases we've
shown that we understand that piece.
We have approached Commons to see if that would be an option. It might
work, but a TLP seems to be a better fit. There seems to be an effort to
not have sub-projects, with the obvious exception of Commons. We haven't
talked with the HttpComponents PMC, as it doesn't seem like a good fit.
If you think we should contact them, as they were one of the original
sponsors, let us know.
I know you're quite active in the IPMC and else where in the foundation,
so your help would certainly be appreciated by me. I'm not sure what the
next steps are. We could always try a graduation vote with a 3 or 4
person PMC. We probably would need to do a name change with Android and
the related devices. Any advice is appreciated.
Thanks,
Richard
