Hi Mark,

Thanks for the reply.  At least I'm not going insane.  :)

I agree with what you say about triggering an email automatically but I would 
say that this should be different to the password reset.  This is what 
surprised me most about the process, that the first a user might hear about it 
is a password reset request.  It must confuse users greatly to receive password 
reset emails for accounts they didn't create, whereas an email saying "we've 
created an account for you - time to set a password" would be much more 
acceptable.

Thanks again,

  Rob.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mark H. Wood [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: 01 April 2011 17:26
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [Dspace-general] New E-Person password
> 
> On Fri, Apr 01, 2011 at 04:19:14PM +0100, Rob Ingram wrote:
> > This feels like a really dumb question, and I may be missing
> something obvious, but I can't figure out how to set the password when
> I create a new E-Person using the XMLUI.
> 
> It's not a dumb question at all.  The reason you can't figure out how
> to do that is that you can't do that.
> 
> > Once I've created the E-Person I can trigger a password reset, which
> > will send the user an email and allow them to set a new password but
> > surely this isn't the recommended process for an initial registration.
> 
> I believe it is.  It's more secure to let the user do it himself: as
> administrator I don't have to create a reasonably strong password,
> remember it long enough to communicate it securely to the user, then
> securely destroy all my records and forget that I ever knew it (because
> the more exalted and powerful the user, the more certainly he will
> never change that password, and then I would know something for which
> I'd rather not be responsible).
> 
> This surprised me too, until I thought about it for a bit.  In fact I
> had written proposes changes, but then I thought it through and
> realized that what we have, though counterintuitive, really is the most
> secure approach.  I don't want to know my users' passwords, even for a
> microsecond.
> 
> What we probably *should* change, is that creating an EPerson for
> someone else should *automatically* trigger the password reset process.
> 
> --
> Mark H. Wood, Lead System Programmer   [email protected]
> Asking whether markets are efficient is like asking whether people are
> smart.
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