Thanks, Hardy. I've created a new Jira issue[0], updated my git commit
message with the DS issue number, and updated my pull request[1] title and
description to include the fact that this is slightly related to DS-3434. I
think that's good to go now.

[0] https://jira.duraspace.org/browse/DS-3803
[1] https://github.com/DSpace/DSpace/pull/1917

Cheers,

On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 5:41 PM Hardy Pottinger <hardy.pottin...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi, Alan, yes, we require a matching Jira issue for each pull request.
> When you create a new issue, please mention DS-3434 as being related.
> Thanks!
>
> --Hardy
>
> On Sat, Jan 13, 2018 at 10:00 PM, Alan Orth <alan.o...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I've been testing DSpace 6.2 with Tomcat 8.5.24 and noticed that DSpace
>> does not start if you supply a database pool from JNDI(!). It seems to be a
>> known issue, as Mark Wood created a Jira ticket for it[0]. Also, DSpace 6.2
>> still has the db.jndi setting in dspace.cfg, even though this setting is no
>> longer user customizable. I've made a pull request against the dspace-6_x
>> branch to remove it, but I did not create a Jira ticket. Is it required?
>>
>> [0] https://jira.duraspace.org/browse/DS-3434
>> [1] https://github.com/DSpace/DSpace/pull/1917
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 9:37 AM Alan Orth <alan.o...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> To continue the discussion on a slightly related note: I've just
>>> finished dealing with the fallout caused by some new bot — the only
>>> fingerprint of which is its unique-but-normal-looking user agent — hitting
>>> our XMLUI with 450,000 requests from six different IPs over just a few
>>> hours. This generated a ridiculous amount of load on the server, including
>>> 160 PostgreSQL connections and 52,000 Tomcat sessions before I was able to
>>> mitigate it. Surprisingly, since I had increased out pool size to 300 after
>>> my last message, we never got pool timeout or database connection errors in
>>> dspace.log, but the site was very unresponsive — and this is on a beefy
>>> server with SSDs, plenty of RAM, large PostgreSQL buffer cache, etc! I
>>> ended up having to rate limit this user agent in our frontend nginx web
>>> server using the limit_req_zone module[0].
>>>
>>> So a bit of a mixed success and frustration here. No amount of pool
>>> tweaking will fix this type of issue, because there's always another
>>> bigger, stupider bot that comes along eventually and doesn't match the
>>> "bot" user agent. I will definitely look into implementing separate pools
>>> as Tom had suggested, though, to limit the damage caused by high load to
>>> certain DSpace web applications. Keep sharing your experiences! This is
>>> very valuable and interesting to me.
>>>
>>> [0]
>>> https://github.com/ilri/rmg-ansible-public/commit/368faaa99028c8e0c8a99de3f6c253a228d5f63b
>>>
>>> Cheers!
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jan 4, 2018 at 7:31 AM Alan Orth <alan.o...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> That's a cool idea to use a separate pool for each web application,
>>>> Tom! I'd much rather have my OAI fail to establish a database connection
>>>> than my XMLUI. ;)
>>>>
>>>> Since I wrote the original mailing list message two weeks ago I've had
>>>> DSpace fail to establish a database connection a few thousand times and
>>>> I've increased my pool's max active from 50 to 75 and then 125 — our site
>>>> gets about four million hits per month (from looking at nginx logs), so I'm
>>>> still trying to find the "sweet spot" for the pool settings. Anything's
>>>> better than setting the pool in dspace.cfg, though.
>>>>
>>>> I wish other people would share their pool settings and experiences.
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jan 3, 2018 at 2:40 PM Hardy Pottinger <
>>>> hardy.pottin...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi, please do create this wiki page, I'd love to read it. Thanks!
>>>>>
>>>>> --Hardy
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Jan 3, 2018 at 4:10 PM, Tom Desair <tom.des...@atmire.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I just wanted to add a small note that having 1 single DB pool for
>>>>>> all Tomcat webapps can (and has) lead to problems. Your current pool size
>>>>>> is 50. This means that if you have (malicious) crawlers hitting your OAI
>>>>>> endpoint, this can deplete the available database connections available 
>>>>>> for
>>>>>> the web UI (XMLUI or JSPUI). The other way around can also happen.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But using JNDI DB pools also give you more fine-grained control over
>>>>>> the connection distribution over the different web apps. For example, a
>>>>>> default PostgreSQL installation comes with a max connection limit of 100.
>>>>>> This means you can safely use around 70 connections (from experience). 
>>>>>> You
>>>>>> can then divided these connections with individual JNDI pools like this:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    - OAI: 15 connections
>>>>>>    - REST: 15 connections
>>>>>>    - WEB UI: 40 connections
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Let me know if you've created a JNDI DB pool wiki page. I'll then try
>>>>>> to add some useful information on JDBC interceptors (
>>>>>> https://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-7.0-doc/jdbc-pool.html#Configuring_JDBC_interceptors
>>>>>> ).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [image: logo] Tom Desair
>>>>>> 250-B Suite 3A, Lucius Gordon Drive, West Henrietta, NY 14586
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>>>>>> Gaston Geenslaan 14, Leuven 3001, Belgium
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>>>>>> www.atmire.com
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>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2018-01-03 22:36 GMT+01:00 Tim Donohue <tdono...@duraspace.org>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Alan & Mark,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> These notes look like the start to some enhanced documentation
>>>>>>> around setting up DSpace + Tomcat JNDI (hint, hint).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm wondering (out loud) if we should take these concepts/ideas and
>>>>>>> turn them into official documentation in the "Installing DSpace" section
>>>>>>> (maybe somewhere under "Advanced Installation"?):
>>>>>>> https://wiki.duraspace.org/display/DSDOC6x/Installing+DSpace
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks though for sharing the notes and Q&A here. I think this will
>>>>>>> be very helpful for others who wish to go this route.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> - Tim
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 3, 2018 at 3:17 PM Mark H. Wood <mwoodiu...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks for posting these notes.  I'm sure they will be helpful.
>>>>>>>> You've shown some tools that I didn't know about.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> A pool instantiated by DSpace is probably effectively invisible to
>>>>>>>> other webapp.s even in the same JVM.  The Servlet spec. tries very 
>>>>>>>> hard to
>>>>>>>> create the illusion that each webapp. is floating in a kind of womb, 
>>>>>>>> where
>>>>>>>> everything it needs is mysteriously provided for it from somewhere 
>>>>>>>> beyond
>>>>>>>> its perception.  Each has its own classloader, for example, and so 
>>>>>>>> things
>>>>>>>> that a webapp. creates for itself tend to be known only in places that 
>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>> not accessible by other webapp.s.  I could wish that DSpace made more
>>>>>>>> thorough use of the Servlet environment rather than behaving as if it 
>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>> standalone code.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You're quite correct that the command-line tools don't share a pool
>>>>>>>> with any of the webapp.s, because the launcher runs in a different 
>>>>>>>> process
>>>>>>>> with its own address space.  This is one reason to continue specifying 
>>>>>>>> pool
>>>>>>>> settings in dspace.cfg -- IMO this should be the *only* use of those
>>>>>>>> settings.  It *is* possible to supply a pool to the command line out of
>>>>>>>> JNDI -- I've done it -- but you need to supply a directory service to 
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> process.  I can say a little about that if anybody is interested.  You
>>>>>>>> could provide in dspace.cfg settings more appropriate to the command 
>>>>>>>> line,
>>>>>>>> if your webapp.s are set up with pools (tuned for their needs) from 
>>>>>>>> JNDI.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The reason you don't have to tinker with directory services for
>>>>>>>> webapp.s is that the <Resource> and <ResourceLink> elements are causing
>>>>>>>> your Servlet container (Tomcat) to populate an internal directory 
>>>>>>>> service
>>>>>>>> with objects such as your connection pool.  This is specified by Java 
>>>>>>>> EE,
>>>>>>>> but many Servlet containers implement it even when not required by the
>>>>>>>> relevant spec.s.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You *do* need to supply any DBMS drivers to the container itself,
>>>>>>>> because the pool and connections are created by the container and so 
>>>>>>>> must
>>>>>>>> be visible from *its* classloader(s), which (in Tomcat anyway) are on a
>>>>>>>> branch of the hierarchy that is parallel to those of the webapp.s.  I 
>>>>>>>> also
>>>>>>>> would use the latest released driver.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It should be simple to provide a log message when the resolution of
>>>>>>>> jdbc/dspace *succeeds*, and I think we should.  There's already a Jira
>>>>>>>> issue about making the other case less scary, and perhaps this should 
>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>> included in that work.
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>
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>>>
>>>
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>>
>>
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