Many thanks for clarifying this @Sean. Since this is a key feature for my 
deployment, I will have to postpone the transition to 7.x and follow 
closely these bug reports. 

Kind regards
Milos

понедељак, 20. март 2023. у 16:44:23 UTC+1 Sean Kalynuk је написао/ла:

> Hi Milos,
>
>  
>
> I think it is this bug:
>
>  
>
> https://github.com/DSpace/dspace-angular/issues/1758
>
>  
>
> --
>
> Sean
>
>  
>
> *From: *dspac...@googlegroups.com <dspac...@googlegroups.com> on behalf 
> of Milos Ivanovic <imi...@gmail.com>
> *Date: *Sunday, March 19, 2023 at 3:11 PM
> *To: *DSpace Technical Support <dspac...@googlegroups.com>
> *Subject: *Re: [dspace-tech] ORCID autohority in DSpac 7.5
>
> *Caution:* This message was sent from outside the University of Manitoba.
>
>  
>
> Dear Sean,
>
>  
>
> I've forgotten to comment on one more issue. When submitting a new item, 
> one gets suggestions from ORCID API on i.e. *dc.contributor.author* 
> fields. However, when editing items, the suggestions are missing. If one 
> types the surname and first name of the author, that author just gets 
> overwritten in Solr, getting a new authority ID. Is this a bug or a 
> feature? Is there an option to force those fields to behave the way when 
> submitting a new item?
>
>  
>
> Regards
>
> Milos
>
>  
>
> среда, 8. март 2023. у 21:40:54 UTC+1 Milos Ivanovic је написао/ла:
>
> Dear Sean, 
>
>  
>
> Many thanks for your thorough explanation. IMHO the improvement in this 
> respect is worth considering. 
>
>  
>
> Regards
>
> Milos
>
>  
>
> среда, 8. март 2023. у 01:04:30 UTC+1 Sean Kalynuk је написао/ла:
>
> Hi Milos,
>
>  
>
> After looking through the DSpace 7.5 code, I don’t see that institution 
> can be configured to be displayed in the search results. (Although, there 
> are bits and pieces in the code that seem to indicate that it’s not that 
> far away from being supported.) 
>
>  
>
> The author search display results are limited to:
>
>  
>
> last-name
>
> first-name
>
> orcid
>
> insolr (this is an indicator if the result came from the authority Solr 
> core, and would have a UUID if so, otherwise, it will say “false” in which 
> case the result came from the ORCID API)
>
>  
>
> However, there are other ORCID Person values obtained during the search, 
> including:
>
>    - Keywords
>    - External identifiers
>    - Researcher URLs
>    - Biography
>
>  
>
> You can see what the ORCID API returns for a Person here:
>
>
> https://github.com/ORCID/orcid-model/blob/master/src/main/resources/record_3.0/person-3.0.xsd
>
>  
>
> None of these other values are made available for display in the search 
> results though. However, they are stored in the Solr authority core so 
> could potentially be used at some point.
>
>  
>
> Surprisingly, there is an internal “institution” value that could also 
> potentially be used, but there is no current mapping from the ORCID Person 
> record to an institution value that DSpace could use for display purposes.
>
>  
>
> I figure it’s important to point out that there are several other quirks 
> with the implementation that cause some difficulty in finding ORCID 
> authors. For example, the ORCID API result list is hard-coded to at most 10 
> results. Also, the ORCID API search is so generic that searching for first 
> name and last name (instead of just last name) can result in not being able 
> to even find the person you’re looking for (if outside the 10 results 
> limit). I find better results when only using last name in the search. (Of 
> course, it all depends on how unique the last name is.)
>
>  
>
> Perhaps the future lies with ORCID Person entities and not the ORCID 
> Authority implementation?
>
>  
>
> --
>
> Sean
>
>  
>
> *From: *dspac...@googlegroups.com <dspac...@googlegroups.com> on behalf 
> of Milos Ivanovic <imi...@gmail.com>
> *Date: *Tuesday, March 7, 2023 at 11:51 AM
> *To: *DSpace Technical Support <dspac...@googlegroups.com>
> *Subject: *Re: [dspace-tech] ORCID autohority in DSpac 7.5
>
> *Caution:* This message was sent from outside the University of Manitoba.
>
>  
>
> Perfect. Thanks, @Sean, it really works with the public API! This is 
> something I've been looking for. Will give it a more thorough test. 
>
>  
>
> One more quick question if anyone knows. Do you know how to add the name 
> of the institution from the ORCID profile to the suggestions? It would make 
> the process much easier IMHO. 
>
>  
>
> Kind regards!
>
> Milos
>
>  
>
> уторак, 7. март 2023. у 18:35:17 UTC+1 darryl....@usask.ca је написао/ла:
>
> (sorry, hit the post button too soon)
>
>  
>
> I'm now seeing the same error in the logs you noted in  8436 
> https://github.com/DSpace/DSpace/issues/8436#issuecomment-1249577192 
>
>  
>
> While I'm a little bummed the ORCID stuff is still not quite there yet, 
> its at least reassuring to know that my setup is working as well as can be 
> expected right now.
>
>  
>
> Thanks again!
>
>  
>
> - Darryl
>
> On Tuesday, March 7, 2023 at 11:27:16 AM UTC-6 darryl....@usask.ca wrote:
>
> Thanks Sean.  With the sections of orcid-authority-services.xml 
> uncommented, and a correction to a typo in my local.cfg I'm now seeing 
> results back from the ORCID API. Like you, I'm using the public URLs for 
> both orcid.api-url and orcid.public-url.
>
> On Tuesday, March 7, 2023 at 10:31:59 AM UTC-6 Sean Kalynuk wrote:
>
> Hi Darryl and Milos,
>
>  
>
> You do need to uncomment the proper sections in 
> orcid-authority-services.xml. I had the same “No bean named 
> ‘AuthoritySource’ available” error until I modified the configuration. The 
> relevant comment is the one I made here: 
>
> https://github.com/DSpace/DSpace/issues/8436#issuecomment-1248565724
>
>  
>
> However, Milos, I compared your orcid-authority-services.xml to mine and 
> they are identical (ignoring whitespace).
>
>  
>
> One difference I did notice in the config is that I am using the public 
> ORCID API for testing:
>
>  
>
> orcid.api-url = https://pub.orcid.org/v3.0
>
>  
>
> whereas you are using the member API:
>
>  
>
> orcid.api-url = https://api.orcid.org/v3.0
>
>  
>
> I have not configured full ORCID integration yet, and am only using the 
> public API for author lookup. Perhaps you could try with the public API 
> just for author lookup to see if that would work first? I have been using 
> the developer credentials for my personal ORCID account for testing and it 
> has connected and found ORCID records while searching for a 
> dc.contributor.author value in a submission form.
>
>  
>
> One thing to point out though is that there is an outstanding bug with the 
> “will be generated” authority keys related to ORCID authority records:
>
>  
>
> https://github.com/DSpace/DSpace/issues/8490
>
>  
>
> This occurs with newly found ORCID records from the ORCID API (not those 
> in your authority Solr core) since they need to have authority keys 
> generated.
>
>  
>
> --
>
> Sean
>
>  
>
> *From: *dspac...@googlegroups.com <dspac...@googlegroups.com> on behalf 
> of darryl....@usask.ca <darryl....@usask.ca>
> *Date: *Monday, March 6, 2023 at 5:35 PM
> *To: *DSpace Technical Support <dspac...@googlegroups.com>
> *Subject: *Re: [dspace-tech] ORCID autohority in DSpac 7.5
>
> *Caution:* This message was sent from outside the University of Manitoba.
>
>
> Milos, do you see anything in your logs/dspace.log file related to ORCID?  
> I can't seem to get the ORCID lookup working either.  I've double and 
> triple checked all my config and I can't find any issues.  However, in my 
> DSpace logs I see the same "No bean named 'AuthoritySource' available" and 
> " org.dspace.content.authority.SolrAuthority @ external source for 
> authority not configured" warnings mentioned in issue 8436 -- 
> https://github.com/DSpace/DSpace/issues/8436 and I'm curious if that is 
> showing up for you as well.
>
>  
>
> There's a comment in that issue that mentions uncommenting some code 
> in dspace/config/spring/api/orcid-authority-services.xml which I haven't 
> looked into yet.  I also see that this issue was moved to the DSpace 7.6 
> To-Do list by Tim Donohue.  I wondering if maybe the ORCID lookup stuff is 
> still not quite ready for production usage?
>
>  
>
> - Darryl
>
>  
>
>  
>
>  
>
> On Monday, March 6, 2023 at 7:12:03 AM UTC-6 Milos Ivanovic wrote:
>
> Besides author lookup using ORCID (which is my primary use case), in order 
> to check the communication with ORCID API, I also tried to configure ORCID 
> authentication. No luck. The ORCID account has a publicly visible email, 
> bound to the DSpace account, my site is HTTPS enabled, but it's still not 
> working :( 
>
>  
>
> Can anyone send me an anonymized working config or any other advice on 
> what to check? Thanks in advance.
>
>  
>
> Kind regards
>
> Milos
>
>  
>
> петак, 3. март 2023. у 17:34:24 UTC+1 Milos Ivanovic је написао/ла:
>
> Sorry, I have forgotten to mention it. This setting is ok too. 
>
>  
>
>  
>
> петак, 3. март 2023. у 16:46:43 UTC+1 Sean Kalynuk је написао/ла:
>
> Hi Milos,
>
>  
>
> Do you also have:
>
>  
>
> plugin.named.org.dspace.content.authority.ChoiceAuthority = \
>
>   org.dspace.content.authority.SolrAuthority = SolrAuthorAuthority
>
>  
>
> I don’t see it in your config (at least in this message).
>
>  
>
> It is commented out by default in 
> [your-dspace-home]/config/modules/authority.cfg
>
>  
>
> --
>
> Sean
>
>  
>
> *From: *dspac...@googlegroups.com <dspac...@googlegroups.com> on behalf 
> of Milos Ivanovic <imi...@gmail.com>
> *Date: *Friday, March 3, 2023 at 4:17 AM
> *To: *DSpace Technical Support <dspac...@googlegroups.com>
> *Subject: *[dspace-tech] ORCID autohority in DSpac 7.5
>
> *Caution:* This message was sent from outside the University of Manitoba.
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>  
>
> Dear All,
>
>  
>
> I am trying to enable ORCID authority according to 
> https://wiki.lyrasis.org/display/DSDOC7x/ORCID+Authority. However,  the 
> suggestions from the ORCID API do not appear in the  Author field of the 
> "Submit new item" component. The relevant part of *local.cfg* looks like 
> this:
>
>  
>
> choices.plugin.dc.contributor.author = SolrAuthorAuthority
> choices.presentation.dc.contributor.author = authorLookup
> authority.controlled.dc.contributor.author = true
> authority.author.indexer.field.1=dc.contributor.author
> auto-update-items = true
> event.dispatcher.default.consumers = authority, versioning, discovery, 
> eperson
> orcid.domain-url= https://orcid.org
> orcid.api-url = https://api.orcid.org/v3.0
> orcid.public-url = https://pub.orcid.org/v3.0
> orcid.application-client-id = APP-**************** 
> orcid.application-client-secret = ****************
>
>  
>
> The API is normally enabled in my ORCID profile. Also, 
> *orcid-authority-services.xml* is attached. There are no traces of 
> erroneous (or any other) ORCID API requests in DSpace and Tomcat logs. 
>
>  
>
> Am I missing something obvious?
>
>  
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> Milos
>
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