Graham & All, That's good to hear, although I'd still have a concern around ongoing maintenance of a separate Oracle demo server. DuraSpace doesn't have the staff to maintain yet another demo server just for Oracle (as you may know, our entire DSpace tech staff is literally just myself).
Though I imagine we probably could just provide a separate temporary server only for Testathons (which would then be taken down after testathon). That could be a place where someone from the community could install the latest DSpace with Oracle, and then allow others to test it in a more centralized fashion. This sounds like something that would be worth trying out for the DSpace 1.8.0 release in October. - Tim On 5/2/2011 5:22 PM, Graham Triggs wrote: > Tim, > > There is absolutely no requirement to have an Oracle license for a > testathon. The Oracle XE database is easy to install, works exactly the > same as the full licensed copy, and we'll get nowhere near the limits in > data sizes for the purposes of a testathon. > > I'm quite happy to assist with implementing this on Duraspace provided > servers. > > G > > On 2 May 2011 23:05, Tim Donohue <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > Hi Hardy & Richard, > > I'll readily admit that our Oracle support has been more difficult > recently. The primary reason for this is that the Committer who was > leading DSpace's Oracle support has moved on to a different role and no > longer works with DSpace. So, at this point in time, we have no (zero) > Committers who actively use Oracle in their workplace (at least none > that I'm aware of, unless someone has switched recently). > > Obviously, it is a concern to us that we no longer have anyone who is > actively using Oracle. It also means we become much more dependent on > the community members who use Oracle to report issues or problems > (especially during Testathons & beta testing). > > The Committers do still attempt to do some basic Oracle testing before > releases. But, sometimes this testing may not be as thorough as that > provided by community members (as we may accidentally overlook testing > of a particular feature, e.g. editing or adding e-people via XMLUI as > Hardy reported in DS-841). Again, a large part of this is that none of > our Committers run Oracle on a day-to-day basis, and we're all > volunteers with a limited amount of time to devote to testing. > > So, to help ensure we are supporting Oracle fully, it'd be wonderful if > those who use Oracle (and want to ensure it remains supported) can help > out. Here's a few ways you can help: > > (1) Offer to install a Testathon DSpace instance backed by Oracle > during our next Testathon. Currently, 'http://demo.dspace.org' (the > primary Testathon server) is running on PostgreSQL as DuraSpace doesn't > have an Oracle license, and we don't have an Oracle DB expert on staff. > > (2) Offer to download & test an Oracle-based DSpace install on your > local servers during next Testathon/beta-testing & report back any > issues you find before the final release > > (3) If you want, you can join the 'dspace-changelog' listserv to keep > track of whether changes look to be Oracle specific or not. > Alternatively, you could also just help test the latest Trunk code > against Oracle every once in a while (and report back what you find). > > During development, the Committers are trying to ensure all > patches/changes will work with Oracle (but obviously sometimes things > slip through). So, in most cases, just testing the latest SVN Trunk code > every once in a while should be good enough to locate any potential > problems with the upcoming release. > > RE: 1.7.2 Release > > I'll talk to the Committers around whether we can push out a very minor > 1.7.2 update just to fix DS-841. Are there any other known Oracle issues > in DSpace 1.7.0/1.7.1 we should be resolving at the same time? Or is the > only remaining Oracle issue the one described in DS-841? > > NOTE: At this point in time, the DSpace Committers actually were not > planning a full 1.7.2 release to resolve any other issues. We had > discussed a 1.7.2. But, we had tentatively decided against it, as we > have 1.8.0 coming up in October and most of us are actively working hard > on features to release in 1.8.0. > > *However*, we should be making sure that Oracle is *fully* supported in > a 1.7.x release series (I know there were other Oracle issues we already > fixed between 1.7.0 and 1.7.1). So, I would be willing to recommend a > very small 1.7.2 release *just* to fix the remaining Oracle issue(s). > > So, Hardy & Richard, if you have found any other issues with 1.7.1, it'd > be good to know so that we can release a working Oracle 1.7.x version in > the near future. > > - Tim > > > On 5/2/2011 12:33 PM, Pottinger, Hardy J. wrote: > > Hi, Richard, I think what needs to happen is someone from our > community of > > Oracle installations needs to commit an Oracle-backed > installation to the > > next Testathon, to catch items like this. I am also going to try > to do > > more testing along the way. I think what we need to do as a > community is > > to be especially vigilant for patches that touch the classes that > interact > > with the database in any way, as this area of DSpace is particularly > > important to our use of DSpace. > > > > I'd like to reach out to the more-experienced developers on this > list: is > > there a good way, besides "paying more attention" to follow the > commits > > and watch out for changes to the database classes? Do I need to > just join > > the commit mail list and set up a a filter in my mail client? Or > is there > > some better way to keep on top of these things? > > > > Also, Richard, this a very minor detail, but I am the reporter > for DS-841, > > Peter was kind enough to add a comment on my behalf, when I could not > > figure out how to add one (I was home sick with a case of the flu > on that > > day, and I appreciate Peter's willingness to do that for me). > > -- > > HARDY POTTINGER<[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> > > University of Missouri Library Systems > > http://lso.umsystem.edu/~pottingerhj/ > <http://lso.umsystem.edu/%7Epottingerhj/> > > "No matter how far down the wrong road you've gone, > > turn back." --Turkish proverb > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 5/2/11 8:59 AM, "Jizba, Richard"<[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > > >> > >> We have encountered the problem reported previously by Peter Dietz: > >> > http://dspace.2283337.n4.nabble.com/DuraSpace-JIRA-Created-DS-841-IllegalA > >> > rgumentException-No-such-column-rnum-error-in-DSpace-1-7-x-XML-td3381504.h > >> tml > >> ('IllegalArgumentException: No such column rnum' error in DSpace > 1.7.x > >> XMLUI admin eperson (with Oracle backend)) > >> > >> Any release date for 1.7.2? > >> > >> Also, in the older "Reference Theme", the simple solr statistics > do not > >> display. > >> Look at: http://hdl.handle.net/10504/90 > >> > >> Any explanation for why the Oracle side has been so buggy with this > >> version? This isn't helping my cause locally as a promoter of > dspace. I > >> am not a programmer, but I would be happy to beta-test the next > version > >> to catch any Oracle issues. > >> > >> Richard Jizba > >> Health Sciences Library > >> Creighton University > >> (402) 280-5142 > >> [email protected] > >> > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > WhatsUp Gold - Download Free Network Management Software > > The most intuitive, comprehensive, and cost-effective network > > management toolset available today. 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