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On 26-11-13 15:34, Thomas Preud'homme wrote:
> Hi there,

Hi Thomas,

> 
> TL;DR: maintainer of dspam's Debian package speaking. I would like
> to know what is the current status of the development of dspam.
> 
> As for any software, bugs are regularly found in dspam. Everytime a
> Debian user has reported such a bug, I did my best to triage it,
> debug it if it's a real bug and if possible provide a patch in
> dspam's bug tracker. However, I didn't see any reaction to my bug
> report there and there was no new commit in dspam since august
> 2012. There is also not much traffic on this mailing list.

You are right in stating that there is no active development on dspam.
This is due to a small team of volunteers that don't have the manpower
or even knowledge (I don't know C and dislike perl) to actively
maintain the source.
Attempts in the past on getting more help on board hasn't really
resulted in anything, but the current sleeping state of the project
won't help in solving that situation imho.

I took a quick look at the bug reports you submitted, and I'd be happy
to apply the patches to the source tree, but I'm unable to actually
test them. The hash/css backend is known to be problematic when used
in a larger scale environment, which is why almost nobody uses it in
production. (Considering that POV, it would be unwise to ship the hash
as the default backend like Debian does, but that's a different
discussion.)

> 
> Therefore I am wondering what is the future of dspam. You might
> already know it, a stable release of Debian is supported for about
> 3 years. I commited myself to support dspam (in version 3.10.1) in
> the current Debian release starting from october 2013 but given the
> current momentum, I am wondering if I will do the same for the next
> release.

There is still a nice userbase, as you can see in the dspam-user
mailing list, including questions about new installs now and then. For
most people, dspam is a stable tool that works as advertised, albeit
with some 'stay away from this part!' and 'don't turn this knob
unless...' cautions on the box.

The question is whether Debian (and derative) users will be bothered
by dspam dropping out of the repositories. That would be a question
for dspam-user ml. Personal opinion: I use the packages on ubuntu, and
am glad they're available.

> 
> So I'm waiting to hear from you about the plan regarding dspam. Is
> there still some people working on it? Will there be a new release
> soon? What about the patches reported with a patch?

For now, there is no new release planned anytime soon. Maybe that
should change but (I guess) everyone's priorities are somewhere else.
I'll try to look into your patches and commit them.

I do like that fact that you care whether we're still alive, and I'd
say: yes, but only just :/

Kind regards,
        Tom

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