On Mon, 29 Oct 2018 at 17:59, Mike Mazarick <[email protected]> wrote: > First, I wanted to thank you for replying. This was the first (and only) > indication that someone was subscribed and/or was reading my messages.
I think people are reading; they're just not sure how to reply because you're not really asking any questions about DTrace. > https://wiki.openindiana.org/oi/OpenIndiana+Wiki+Home > In their News Thread there are 3 from 2017, 3 from 2016, 3 from 2015, 4 from > 2014 and 1 from 2013 > https://wiki.openindiana.org/oi/OpenIndiana+Community+Hub I wouldn't worry about the wiki -- I don't think it has seen much activity. Instead, you should look at the announcements feed on the site itself: https://www.openindiana.org/category/announcements/ (note: two releases in 2018, amongst calls for testing of various work-in-progress images) You can also see that a lot of work is going on in "oi-userland", the source repository which contains a lot of what makes up OpenIndiana: https://github.com/OpenIndiana/oi-userland/commits/oi/hipster The core operating system (illumos) also sees a fair number of commits: https://github.com/illumos/illumos-gate/commits/master > > SmartOS (by Joyent) > ... The Samsung acquisition could give Joyent the boost it needs to survive > in this new world. Meanwhile, as the cloud computing market has matured and > prices have plummeted, cloud providers have turned to specialized > software—such as Google's Firebase service and Amazon's Dynamo database—to > differentiate themselves. Joyent has been adding new offerings along these > lines as well, including a new storage system called Manta. I work for Joyent and we're doing just fine thank you. SmartOS (and thus illumos) continues to underpin our Triton and Manta software offerings, and DTrace continues to be a big part of how we instrument and debug those systems as we work on them. You'll note we're doing active work in the open on our platform, too: https://github.com/joyent/smartos-live/commits/master https://github.com/joyent/illumos-joyent/commits/master > > I agree that Linux is popular, but to suggest that it has "won" > > implies a zero sum game -- this is firmly not the case. > > What individual or company is NOT using the cloud? > I believe it IS a zero sum game. If that was true, we'd all be using Windows NT because it was extremely successful in the late 1990s. There are, in fact, _many_ operating systems with surrounding ecosystems of various sizes, projecting various often disjoint sets of values. It's actually just fine for a community to expand to a sustainable and appropriate size; perpetual growth isn't, itself, a value or an end goal. > Dave Pacheo's Blog August 18, 2016 by dap > http://dtrace.org/blogs/dap/ > The most recent entry on DTrace was November 20, 2013 by dap I sit next to Dave in the office and I promise he (and other members of our engineering organisation) still use DTrace. It'd be great if we had more time to write blog posts, but we've been kept relatively busy of late with the maintenance and operation of our Manta object storage system as it sees more use within Samsung. I would note that Bryan (yes, that Bryan!) has invested heavily in recent months on some new tools for visualising data chiefly gathered through DTrace instrumentation: https://github.com/joyent/statemap He's written about it as well, but chiefly through the lens of exploration of the Rust programming language, which he's using to implement the visualisation software now. > VERDICT: DEAD from extreme bitrot and lack of interest in keeping DTrace > alive Software doesn't _rot_. We build the operating system (that is, illumos) every day. DTrace is fully functional and we're maintaining it. The FreeBSD folks have a functional port of DTrace as well, upon which they also continue to work. It doesn't have to be flashy and exciting to be alive and well. I use the facilities afforded me by DTrace all the time in my day job. It's not going away. > The question is whether this list is "dead" or not. It may be time to shut > it down when it only has 14 posts this year. You're welcome to unsubscribe if you wish. For the rest of us, if and when a question or announcement about DTrace arises this is just one of the places it might appear. People are just as likely to raise questions within the operating system community in which they participate directly; i.e., I'm most likely to ask a DTrace question of my colleagues in the illumos community. Let's please keep this list for questions about DTrace usage and development, to the extent that people feel the need to ask them. The more off-topic mail that arrives, the more likely people are to unsubscribe -- which truly _would_ diminish the value of the list! Cheers. -- Joshua M. Clulow Engineer @ Joyent http://blog.sysmgr.org ------------------------------------------- dtrace-discuss Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/184261/=now Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=25769126 Powered by Listbox: https://www.listbox.com
