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>i have a panasonic cw 7503 cd writer, i couldn't boot up from the 
>drive, even with original system disk, is it something wrong with the 
>drive or all cd writers are not bootable?

Dear VAMP,

I spent so much time trying to do this a few months ago that I wrote 
myself a report on it.  The scope of this report may be a little 
different than what you want to do, but read it to learn alot of tricks 
you'll need to know about....in particular the fact that you must use 
Toast 3.0 and not Toast 4.0....

Jerry

A.  Problem:  In the event of a complete hard-drive failure requiring 
reformatting, you lose your System Folder with all its preferences, 
3rd-party extensions, your nice Apple menu and Control Strip which took 
you so long to get it just how you want it, and other items installed by 
your applications.  How can you back this up using your CD Recorder, so 
you won't have to reinstall your applications one-by-one and reset all 
your preferences?

B.  Solution:

Write a Bootable CD with a Bare Bones System Folder, also containing a 
second System Folder which can be either (1) your Real System Folder or 
(2) an Interim System Folder which has enough Extensions and Control 
Panels to connect to your network (AppleTalk, File Sharing, Open 
Transport, and Ethernet drivers for your network card).    In fact, your 
Interim System Folder may be a copy of your Real System Folder, but since 
you're backing it up elsewhere on your network, you don't need to update 
the Interim System Folder unless you change your network.

That is, if you have an Ethernet with another Mac and big hard drive 
available, back up your Real System Folder to it whenever you make 
significant improvements to it.  Note:  To copy your System Folder to 
another Mac via AppleTalk, use the Finder on the computer whose System 
Folder you are copying FROM, otherwise the copy will not be able to  
complete due to Fonts and things being "in use".  Depending on size, this 
takes maybe an hour with LocalTalk, 10 minutes with 10BaseT ethernet, 1 
minute with 100BaseT ethernet.

If you're not using this "network backup" method, you'll need to rewrite 
your bootable CD whenever you make improvements to your Real System 
Folder.

After the dreaded day when your hard drive dies, the steps are:
1. Reformat the drive using Apple's Disk Tools, TechTool Pro or Norton 
Utilities, remembering to select HFS+ if you want it (desirable for 
drives > 4 GB). 
2.  Use Norton or TechTool to fix bad blocks.  
3.  Boot from your CD.  Remember that you must use a genuine Apple CD 
drive, and hold down the C key after the startup chime.  If your CD drive 
is external, as with a Powerbook 2400, it's a little tricky to get it to 
work.  See below.
4.  If your Real System Folder is on the CD, you simply copy it to your 
hard drive, restart and you're done.  If you've got the Interim System 
Folder, skip to the next step.
5.  Copy the Interim System Folder to the hard drive.
6.  Shut down.
7.  Disconnect the CD drive.
8.  Restart. 
9.  Enable File sharing, choose the correct AppleTalk port, connect to 
the computer which has the Real System Folder backup.
10. Copy the Real System Folder from the network
11. Change the blessing from the Interim System Folder to the the Real 
System Folder (see below for specific instructions.)
12. Restart and you're back in business.

C.  How To Make the Bare Bones System Folder:

To make the Bare Bones System Folder, copy your System Folder, 
eliminating as much as possible.   For OS 8.1, you need only the 
following items:
    Extensions (folder contains Appearance Extension and Text Encoding 
Converter)
    Finder
    Fonts (suitcase, contains Charcoal, Chicago, Geneva, Monaco)
    System
    Text Encodings

Note: It would be useful if you could put enough extensions in here to at 
least bring your network up, but it won't work.  In particular, File 
Sharing cannot be enabled when booting from a CD, and the Chooser will 
not work either.  That's why you need the Interim System Folder.

You should test your Bare Bones System Folder by blessing it, restarting 
your computer, verifying that it works, then re-blessing the Real System 
Folder.

D.  To "Bless" a Different System Folder

The Macintosh OS maintains one and only one "blessed" System Folder on a 
hard disk or "volume".  This is the System Folder which will load and 
boot a Mac computer the next time it is restarted on this volume.  At any 
time, you can tell which one (if any) is blessed because it has the 
Smiling Mac OS icon on it.  To change the blessing from System Folder A 
to System Folder  B,

1.  Un-bless System Folder A by putting its Finder or System file into a 
subfolder.
2.  Verify that the Smiling Mac OS icon is gone from your System Folder 
A.  
3.  Bless System Folder B by opening and closing it.
4.  Put the Finder or System back where you found it, loose in the System 
Folder A.
5.  Verify that System Folder B is now blessed.

This method works reliably with OS 8.  With System 7, you sometimes might 
have to move the System file and/or Finder file out to the root level of 
the hard drive, then move it back into the desired blessed System Folder, 
before the system recognizes and blesses it.

E.  To write a Mac Bootable CD with Toast.

You must install and use Toast 3.8.  Despite what the manual says, we 
have not been able to make a Bootable CD using Toast 4.0.

1.  Check Control Panels > File Sharing and turn off File Sharing if it 
is on.
2.  Launch Toast 3.8 .  If you have a LaCie CDRW-12432S CD drive, you 
must put this driver in the same folder with Toast 3.8.
3.  Menu > Utilities > Create Temporary Partition.
4.  Name it how you want the CD named, such as "Jack's System Restorer".
5.  The volume will appear on the desktop as a CD.  Copy your Bare Bones 
System Folder to it.
6.  Open the volume and verify that the Bare Bones System Folder is 
"blessed" (smiling Mac).
7.  Add the Real System Folder and/or Interim System Folder.
8.  (optional)  Add any other folders and files (applications, etc.) you 
might need to restore "on the road".
9.  Verify that your Bare Bones System Folder in the CD is still blessed.
10.  Go back to Toast, Menu > Format > Mac Volume
11.  Drag the CD you created onto the Toast window
12.  Click Data
13.  check Bootable.
14.  check Don't Copy Free space
15.  Click OK
16.  Click Agree.
17.  Click Write CD
18.  Set speed to 8x
19.  Insert blank CDR.
20.  Click Write Disc.
21.  When the disc is done, turn File Sharing back on, if you turned it 
off.

F.  To Start A Finicky Powerbook On An External CD-ROM Drive:

1.  Put the CD in an Apple-brand external CD drive and close the drawer.
2.  Turn off power on the CD drive and the shut down the powerbook.
3.  Connect SCSI cable; make sure it's pushed in straight, all the way.
4.  Turn on CD drive power.
5.  Wait 12 seconds for drive to spin up.
6.  Hold down power key of powerbook for 1 second, to start it.
7.  Wait 2 seconds.
8.  Hold down C key until you see smiling Mac.



Jerry Krinock, San Jose, CA 
via Claris Emailer for Macintosh


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