On Mar 11, 2009, at 5:43 AM, Philip Newton wrote:

> Will OpenID accounts be able to keep a journal, too (i.e. write
> entries in it), and post entries in communities?

Not at launch, and likely not for a long time (if ever). Allowing  
OpenID accounts to post entries in communities would be far more  
likely than allowing them to keep a journal (with access to  
associated features). This is because:


> So, I'm wondering whether there's a technical reason why OpenID users
> can't be treated pretty much the same as other accounts on Dreamwidth.
> (I'm guessing there isn't -- i.e. while it might not be possible right
> now, the code to change this would not be too great and might even
> consists partly of removing checks rather than adding additional code
> in some places -- but am willing to be told I'm wrong.)
>
> And the other thing is the policy side: is there a
> philosophical/policy/business reason why OpenID users should not be
> able to have journals and work like personal accounts? Uploading
> userpics, purchasing paid time, etc.?


1). The technical reason: making the alteration would take a lot of  
work. Not be impossible, but take a lot of work, and run the risk of  
breaking lots of things. While we are not averse to lots of work, in  
this case it would be lots of work to our detriment, as:

2). Allowing OpenID users to function as full-featured personal  
accounts would completely bypass the invite code system, which we are  
using as necessary to control site growth and limit the number of  
free (unpaying) accounts to a number that can be supported by the  
then-current percentage of paid accounts. The features that personal  
accounts have access to are the ones that cost us money to offer.  
(OpenID accounts also cost us money to support, in terms of the  
resources they consume in viewing, but that's also factored into the  
free user::paid user ratio.)

Allowing OpenID users access to all the site features would thus  
privilege OpenID accounts over free personal accounts (as people  
would not need an invite code to create an OpenID account) and  
*dis*courage people to move to DW accounts, resulting in net loss to  
us. I doubt this would be offset by people purchasing paid time for  
OpenID accounts.

I would not be adverse to allowing OpenID accounts to post to  
communities, down the road. I would be highly adverse to allowing  
OpenID accounts to maintain journals and access the full range of  
even the basic free-user features, because it would completely bypass  
the tools we'll be using to keep site growth rational and sustainable.

--D




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Denise Paolucci
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Dreamwidth Studios: Open Source, open expression, open operations.  
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