Bernie,. we missed seeing you at Hamvention.  I know you haven't had a booth
there for a few years, but I'd gotten used to seeing you walking around.
Since my original post dealt with why attendance by both the vendors & the
general amateur populace was noticeably down, would you want to say a few
words on the subject?

And it is unfortunate that the contest & antenna forums were moved.  I
usually stick my head in for at least some, if not all, of the antenna
forum, but that wasn't possible this year since I had no way of getting from
HARA to the CP (at least not with my ride).  I for one hope that this isn't
a trend... or if it is, then the organizers of the appropriate forums find a
way to get interested parties from point "a" to point "b"

73

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bernie McClenny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'Urb LeJeune'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <dx-news@njdxa.org>
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2005 5:17 PM
Subject: RE: [DX-NEWS] Death by repeatedly shooting oneself in the foot


Urb,
Does the local DX club have any forums?  I haven't been to the Orlando
Hamfest.  By the way I have heard good reports on the Contest forum at
Dayton this year, which was held at the Crowne Plaza.  Hint, hint, nudge,
nudge, know what I mean?

Bernie, W3UR

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-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Urb LeJeune
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2005 19:46
To: dx-news@njdxa.org
Subject: [DX-NEWS] Death by repeatedly shooting oneself in the foot

         The Dayton Hamvention has both macro and micro problem.
The macro problems, such as high gas prices and declining interest,
are universal. However, there are problems they have brought on
themselves.

When they were building up the even they were great, they
would do anything humanly possible to help. They would help
find rooms, etc. When the became fat cats with 30K+ attendance,
they hired an outside firm to run the convention. They also stopped
support and discontinued free bus transportation from downtown
to the Hara Arena. In three years the attendance went from 30K+ to
under 20K.

             My personal gripe has always been their requirement that
you have to be present to win a major prize. This discriminates against
people traveling long distances since they have to leave early Sunday,
AM to get home. We pay the same price as the locals but don't have a
shot at a major prize.

             Couple this with the facts that there is essentially nothing to
do in Dayton and hotels are expensive. I predict that the Orlando
Hamfest will take over in a few years. They have great facilities,
ample free parking, Florida in February, and Disneyland. You
can get a nice hotel in Kissimmee - about 10 miles away - , for
about a third of what you pay in Dayton.

This past February they had over 8K people.

Urb, W2DEC


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