I would have to respectfully disagree with Norm's comment that "years ago 
intentional QRM was almost unheard of."

It may not have been at the level that you seen nowadays, but it's always been 
there.

I can still recall one evening in college (about 30 years ago... *sigh*), when 
a bunch of us were operating K3CR on 20 phone, when a small pile-up developed 
(don't ask me why, we weren't a "special event," just a college club station, 
and a pretty active one at the time to boot).  5 minutes or so into the pileup, 
we got hit with carriers and various rude comments.  Then someone else jumped 
on and informed the jammers that he'd called the local FCC monitoring 
station... and someone else taunted him back that the FCC wasn't going to do 
anything... and so on.  As I remember, we eventually just gave up and QSY'd.

I've had carriers and other QRM wipe either me or my intended QSO out in 
contests and DX chasing situations going as far back.  Again, maybe not as 
often as you can see nowadays, but it happens.

Why is it more prevalent today?  For one thing, IMHO, sheer numbers.  We have 
more hams today than we did 30 years ago, and as a result, while the percentage 
of lids has (hopefully) remained small, the actual number has risen.  And when 
it takes only 1 or 2 ding dongs to create havoc...

We also as a society seem to have grown more tolerant over the years of rude 
and obnoxious behavior.  There are many reasons for that, too many to list 
here.  Suffice, when rude behavior is tolerated in other parts of society, it 
gets reflected on the bands too.

And in some situations, the testosterone (or equivalent) takes over.  
Sometimes, some of those "win at any and all costs & take no prisoners" hams 
will do anything to make sure that THEY make the contact, and will sometimes 
prevent YOU from doing so -- so that they can claim "I WON" and, by default, 
you lost.  It's against the true spirit that amateur radio once had and still 
aspires too... but it happens all too often.

73, ron wn3vaw

From: Norm Gertz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Fri Apr 21 07:45:47 CDT 2006
To: Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 'WC7N' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 
        'DX-CHAT' <dx-chat@njdxa.org>
Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] [dx-CHAT]  Gentlemen  HAM'S

My observations through the years is that the "bad apples" who generate QRM 
and engage in outrageous behaviour on the air are also comporting themselves 
in the same manner in their everyday lives.
I disagree with one of the writers who alleged that most of the violators 
are old timers, extra class etc.
Years ago intentional QRM was almost unheard of and operators did not have 
the luxury of split nor a VFO.  You were limited to a handful of crystals.
Perhaps newer is not always better in spite of the sophisticated equipment 
we now have.  If you have a poor operator at the helm then you expect low 
grade performance.

73   Norm   K1AA

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'WC7N'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'DX-CHAT'" <dx-chat@njdxa.org>
Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2006 8:56 PM
Subject: RE: [DX-CHAT] [dx-CHAT] Gentlemen HAM'S


Short of someone's life or limb being in danger, there is no excuse for
transmitting on a DX station's frequency.

Its hard to look someone in the eyes and firmly say "what you're doing is
wrong, and here's why". At least your friend had you to tell him; for all
too many ops, there's no one.

We reap what we sow...

    73,

       Dave, AA6YQ





-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
WC7N
Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2006 20:11 PM
To: DX-CHAT
Subject: [DX-CHAT] [dx-CHAT] Gentlemen HAM'S


Today I have been setting here in the Ham Shack, reading a book, because I
couldn't hear any of the DX but did check frequencies.  (Easy to do whey you

are retired and an old F...)  I was really amazed at the language I was
hearing and first put it on the dumbing down of the ham radio license
requirements but then remembered recently I was visiting a friend who has
been a ham for probably 12-15 years, he was calling a dx station on CW and
some body came up on freq and he went critical with the UP UP UP FU FU FU
etc.  I asked "what are you doing."  His answer "I work hard all day and
when I come home and have time to ham I don't have to put up with that s..."

Well maybe that is the problem now, not the dumbing down of the license but
working hard to support a family, taking too much sh.. from the boss and
just no patience when you get home.

Rod WC7N


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