Oh? I find that interesting. I never saw anything online or in print about it until it happened.
Visalia is a very small subset of active DX'ers. So are Dayton attendees for that matter. As far as the DXAC, well, I couldn't tell you the last time I _ever_ heard a peep from the Atlantic Division DXAC rep, and I've been DX'ing for close to 30 years. That is another story. 73 -----Original Message----- From: David Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2006 2:38 PM To: Ron Notarius W3WN; Dx-Chat Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] Why the new DXCC rule This rule has been discussed many times. At the Visalia DX Convention for example, Wayne Mills talked about it at length before a very large crowd of DXers. He even ask for a show of hands from those who would like to see some new additions to the list. The response was overwhelmingly positive. Rule changes are one reason we have a DX Advisory Committee made up of every day good DXers. The DXAC was in favor of this rule change. Maybe those who are unhappy should contact their DXAC member. Dave - K4SSU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Notarius W3WN" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Dx-Chat" <dx-chat@njdxa.org> Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2006 10:13 AM Subject: RE: [DX-CHAT] Why the new DXCC rule > Under the existing DXCC rules (aka DXCC 2000), there was originally a rule > that permitted recognizing a new or existing entity if there was an > existing > IARU society. The purpose of that rule, IMHO, was to keep Hong Kong and > Macau on the list once administration of those two territories were turned > back over to the People's Republic of China. > > As it turns out, ironically, Hong Kong and Macau remain pretty much > autonomous (although not 100% so), so if that was the purpose of the rule, > it was unneccesary. > > The unintentional side effect was the creation of several new entities by > creation of an IARU society -- Ducie for one comes to mind, which followed > from the creation of the Pitcairn Is IARU society. Consider that at least > one of these IARU groups was created solely to in turn create a DXCC > entity, > and appear to otherwise be inactive groups (if not total shams). So I for > one was not upset when the rule in question was removed. However, as you > will recall, the previous KH8SI group was more than a little upset, since > they were in the process of trying to set up their "American Samoa ARA" to > be another IARU society... which in and of itself is another story. > > So now we have another rule change which permits redefinition of certain > entities into political entities. Did we need this rule change? I don't > know... I never heard any discussion of a rule change either, it was just > suddenly announced, and there it was. > > And almost simultaneously, application is made for Swain's Island to be a > new one, it's approved, and here comes the KH8SI team for another go. > > Coincidence? > > I have nothing per se against a new entity. It's the process that bothers > me. I'm in favor of open discussion and debate. Now I'm not saying that > anything wrong was done... but I dislike an appearance of impropriety, and > right now, there is (IMHO) such an appearance. > > In the future, I believe open discussion of rules changes should be > undertaken prior to new rules being adopted. > > 73, ron w3wn > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf > Of Barry > Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2006 6:42 AM > To: Dx-Chat > Subject: [DX-CHAT] Why the new DXCC rule > > > Just wondering why DXCC changed the rules to seemingly create one new > country for JA1BK. I didn't hear anything about rule change discussion > until rules were changed. Reminds me of the Okino Torishima situation... > 73, > Barry > > -- > > Barry Kutner, W2UP > Newtown, PA > > Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems > http://njdxa.org/dx-chat > > To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org > > This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA > http://njdxa.org > > Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems > http://njdxa.org/dx-chat > > To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org > > This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA > http://njdxa.org > > Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org