I think it's really up to the licensing authority for FJ (the French I believe) to decide if the use of the CEPT licence is valid in this case.
Gerry VE6LB ----- Original Message ----- From: Ron Notarius W3WN To: dx-chat@njdxa.org Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2007 8:14 AM Subject: RE: [DX-CHAT] FJ: Canned Worms (long) I was wondering when that was going to come up. 7O1YGF was NOT disallowed by the DXCC because the license was signed by the wrong person. In fact... it has not been disallowed at all, as I understand it. 7O1YGF remains in "pending documentation" status. That is to say that, as would be the case of ANY entity on the list that operation from is for one reason or another difficult or near-impossible to come by, the 7O1YGF DXpedition has been expected to provide documentation that they had permission to enter the country and operate legally from it. (This is the legacy of Don Miller, Romeo, and a few others of that ilk, I might add). My understanding is that this documentation has yet to be produced. When he was still at the League, Wayne Mills N7NG was waiting for any documentation. Do a search on the League web site, you can read his own words on the subject for yourself. While Wayne is no longer in CT, I suspect that the same attitude remains the same. The onus on the approval of the operation rests on the team. Have they nothing to show that they were allowed to be there? But getting back to our current little tempest in a teapot: Was the OH2AM club call improperly used? As I said before, I lack sufficient knowledge of the CEPT rules to judge. If it was improperly used, presumably in error (as I can't see any reason for it to be anything else), is this alone an infraction sufficient enough to disallow the operation? (Remember that the discretion on this lies with the DXCC -- it MAY rule that this is a large enough infraction, but it doesn't HAVE to) And yes... where are all the FJ hams? And I have to further wonder... if they choose not to operate, then what's the beef? 73 -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Joe Stepansky Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2007 7:45 AM To: dx-chat@njdxa.org Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] FJ: Canned Worms (long) Well, 7O1YGF was disallowed for DXCC because the license (or whatever) was supposedly signed by the "wrong person". I'm not trying to start something, but I figure if that technicality is enough to disallow credit, this probably is too. But several have mentioned something I'd not thought about. Let's assume for a minute that FJ/OH2AM is disallowed for DXCC. WHERE ARE ALL THE FJ HAMS RIGHT NOW? Yes, I'm shouting. Were it me, were I an FJ ham, I'd be doing two things: 1. Not worrying much about FJ/OH2AM DXCC legality. I might be a little cheesed they started first, but I wouldn't have let that situation develop to begin with. I'd have been on the air on the first day FJ became an entity. Even with FJ/OH2AM's presence I would have been on 10 (you never know), 15, RTTY, 160, etc. 2. With FJ/OH2AM no longer operating, I'd be pounding away giving everybody a new one. That's what bothers me right now. What is the possible motivation to avoid being on the air? FJ5KH has already been on the air, so it's not like this will be another "first time" operation. By far, #2 bothers me the most. OK, feel free to question the "legality" of the previous operation, but then don't keep your rigs cold. Get on the air and have some fun. I'm confused. 73, Joe KQ3F At 12:23 AM 12/29/2007 -0500, Ron Notarius W3WN wrote: >IF this is correct... if the club call was improperly used... is THIS enough >to cause the DXCC desk to disapprove of the operation for DXCC purposes? Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
