Granted. As with all generalities, there is no one opinion with which everyone 
agrees. Which is why I prefaces my view with "arguably".

Consider all the things about which we generally complain - wide pileups, poor 
manners in pileups, qrm, some qsl practices, the practice of illegal 
operations, the cost of exdeditions, the incentive created for people to "risk 
their lives"( a sad and ludicrous but valid example of what DXCC brings to the 
table), the very genesis of this thread - the controversy of leaderboards, etc.

For all who find value in the DXCC program, there are counterpoints. All of 
which is a specious debate as the program won't somehow evaporate nor will the 
incentive to work dx stations by every conceivable manner. 

-- Original Message ----- 
  From: Zack Widup 
  To: dx-chat 
  Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2012 12:24 PM
  Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] Leaderboards - and everything else.



  Yes, I'm sure small pileups would develop occasionally to work some station. 
But without DXCC, I doubt anyone would be risking their lives and spending a 
fortune to go to places like Peter I or South Sandwich Islands. And a QSO with 
someone in a European country would have equal weight with a QSO with someone 
in Yemen. 

  I'm sure there would be people who wanted to work as many countries as they 
could on all bands and modes. But I'm willing to bet the number would be much 
smaller.

  But that's not the way it is and I guess we just need to live with the 
existing situation. 

  73, Zack W9SZ



  On Wed, Jun 6, 2012 at 10:35 AM, Don Berger <dberger...@gmail.com> wrote:




      Well, let me ask this question: What would the ham radio world be like
      if there were no DXCC or similar awards?



    Arguably better in many ways. Among them, one could argue the ability to 
have prolonged and therefore interesting discussions with hams in other parts 
of the world would be enjoyable and equally as challenging as DX competition.

    The lack of a DXCC certificate in no way limits or precludes the challenge 
of working countries, band-countries, zones, counties, etc... The existence of 
certificates fills a need only among those who are compelled to demonstrate 
their accomplishment(s) to others who presumably couldn't care less. The 
accomplishment remains equal regardless.

    I won't enumerate problems like qrm, too-wide pileup spreads, a life 
outside ham radio, etc...

    Just my take but for every person who lives and breathes dx, there are many 
more who find enjoyment without external considerations.

    Don K1VSK 



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