Bottom line is you can't work them if you can't hear them So far 3B6 totally nil near SF with an R-7 roof mounted By contrast there was hardly ever a time I could not at least hear D68 even if I could not always work them 73 Brian KI6HT ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-news To post a message, DX NEWS items only, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives available at http://www.mail-archive.com/dx-news%40pro-usa.net/ This is the DXR reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org