Re: [DX-NEWS] is credit for 2000 4W operations being revoked?

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About Timor Lest and the question:  It's IN or OUT DXCC list?   Subject: [DX-NEWS] Fwd: Timor Leste    Date:  Thu, 12 Jun 2003 19:26:15 -0500    From:  K9AJ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>      To:  [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Return-path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2003 16:57:41 -0700 >From: Stu Greene <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Timor Leste > >A petition was filed with the Chief Executive Officer of ARRL today >seeking removal of UNTAET (United Nations Transitional Administration in >East Timor) from the DXCC entities list  and for the addition of Timor >Leste as an entity. > >The DXCC2000 rule under which 4W was added  reads: > >                "b.  The entity has been assigned a call sign prefix bloc >                   by the ITU.  A provisional prefix bloc assignment may be >                   made by the Secretary General of ITU.  Should such >                   provisional assignments not be ratified later by the > full ITU, the >                   Entity will be removed from the DXCC List " > >The assignment was not ratified and UNTAET returned it to ITU which has >reissued the block 4WA-4WZ to Timor Leste.  It is the position of JA1BK >and myself that the addition of 4W to the DXCC entities list was premature >and that a mistake was made.  This mistake has been acknowledged by one of >the gentlemen who made it. > >ARRL is comprised of people and has, in the past, acknowledged mistakes >when countries were deleted under the former DXCC rules.  Islands which >proved not to have existed are an example and the island of Okinotorishima >was deleted because it simply was mistakenly added to the list. > >We expect that after due and hopefully prompt consideration ARRL will >understand the fact that a mistake has been made and that Timor Leste will >be added to the entities list. > >There was a five day operation a few weeks ago in Timor Leste and there is >a continuing operation there at the present time.  The bulletins will have >the information > >                                             WA2MOE "Bernie McClenny, W3UR" wrote: This is incorrect.  The only QSOs from 4W East Timor, now called Timor-Leste, that do not count are QSOs between May 20, 2002 and early May 2003.  I think the only station that this would pertain to is 4W6MM.  I don’t think there were any other 4W operations between those dates. No official word has been made about Removing or Adding East Timor/Timor-Leste! Bernie, W3UR -- Bernie McClenny, W3UR Editor of The Daily DX, The Weekly DX and How's DX. http://www.dailydx.com -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Dick Green Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 22:50 To: DXR Subject: [DX-NEWS] is credit for 2000 4W operations being revoked? Forgive me if this isn't an appropriate question for this reflector. I think it's news, at least to me. A DXer friend claims that DXCC credit for all of the initial 4W (East Timor) operations back in 2000 are going to be revoked because the documentation was not issued by the proper authorities (he thought maybe the licenses were issued by the UN, which would make it a different entity that is now deleted.) He thought some of the recent operations are legitimate for East Timor and will be accepted for credit. I haven't seen anything about this in the ARRL bulletins or anywhere else (though I admit to possibly not paying close enough attention.) Is this true? If so, which operations are OK? Here are the operations I've worked: 4W6GH (04/03/00) 4W/N5KO (04/03/00) 4W6MM (11/25/00 -- CQWW CW) 4W3CW (05/25/03 -- CQ WPX CW) Are any (all) of these good? 73, Dick WC1M