Mel, agree.
Greg, you may not call it a bug,  because it is somewhat intentional, but
it is a improper way to implement a protection schema.
I am from the software industry and I would have endless problems with
customers if my application would lead them to loose data.

My 2 cents Fred PY2XB


On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 13:36:37 -0400, Mel <ve...@videotron.ca> wrote:
> No... it is the programmer's responsibility to protect you from this. 
> Paul made the decision to protect his software by the Draconian measure 
> of disallowing saves. It should be absolutely IMPOSSIBLE for a 
> registered user to find themselves in this situation where the loss of 
> data is inevitable!
> 
> Gregory Brown wrote:
>> Hi Mel,
>> 
>> I can understand your frustration, but if the "demo mode" problem I had
>> actually was caused by my inadvertently opening two sessions of the
>> program simultaneously, I wouldn't be so quick to call it a DX4WIN
>> bug...it's probably more of an operator-error, Windows system-error
>> issue, which I intend to avoid assiduously in the future!  If, on the
>> other hand, the same thing happens spontaneously without any apparent
>> provocation, then perhaps it would be (was?) something Paul could fix.
>> Personally, this is the first time I've ever experienced this in many,
>> many years of using DX4WIN...so I've never seen it happen without the
>> double-open, operator-goof that I just performed.  And the loss of data
>> was my own fault.  A simple hit of the "Print Screen" key would have
>> saved an image of my displayed log which I could have re-entered. 
>> 
>> DX4WIN is still at the top of my list of logging programs, no question.
>> 
>> Greg KTØK
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Mel [mailto:ve...@videotron.ca] 
>>> Sent: Monday, October 19, 2009 10:01 AM
>>> To: Gregory Brown
>>> Cc: dx4win@mailman.qth.net
>>> Subject: Re: [Dx4win] Unexpected "Unlicensed Demo Version, 
>>> Can't Save" problem
>>>
>>>
>>> If that's the bug that plagued ver 7... you could not have 
>>> "saved" your 
>>> log... once in "demo mode" DX4Win will not allow you to save or even 
>>> export your log which only resides in memory. I am truly 
>>> sorry to hear 
>>> this bug still exists. In ver 7 this bug would rarely manifest itself 
>>> without any operator error. It may not happen often (twice in about 5 
>>> years for me) but it results in lost data which is intolerable. I had 
>>> suggested that Paul create a transaction log to recover from such 
>>> problems, but it wasn't implemented in ver 8. Personally... if I lose 
>>> data one more time with DX4Win... I'm done with it... nonetheless I 
>>> remain hopeful.
>>>
>>> Mel, VE2DC
>>>
>>> Gregory Brown wrote:
>>>> This likely isn't a bug, but is something to be aware of.
>>>>
>>>> Yesterday upon exiting DX4WIN 8.02 and answering "yes" to the "Log 
>>>> Modified, Do You Want to Save" dialog box, I received the error 
>>>> message that I was using an unlicensed demo version and the log 
>>>> couldn't be saved.  Very stupidly thinking it meant nothing 
>>> because I 
>>>> knew it was licensed, my finger reflex hit the exit button and 
>>>> zap...the day's QSO's were gone.
>>>>
>>>> The only thing odd about this logging session was that it 
>>> began with 
>>>> me double-clicking a DX4WIN shortcut icon in my quick-start 
>>> bar (which 
>>>> should have been single-clicked) and two DX4WIN sessions 
>>> tried to open 
>>>> at the same time.  One failed (giving an error message) and 
>>> I exited. 
>>>> The other one started successfully so I simply left that 
>>> one running 
>>>> and used it.
>>>>
>>>> Assuming this was the cause of the "unlicensed demo 
>>> version" warning, 
>>>> I have some suggestions: 1. If you are a habitual double-clicker, 
>>>> eliminate your quick-start single-click shortcuts.
>>>> 2. If you accidently start two sessions simultaneously, 
>>> exit BOTH and
>>>> start again.  Then test the session you are using to make sure it
>>>> recognizes your license.
>>>> 3. If your computer tells you something, LISTEN!  Just 
>>> because YOU know
>>>> something doesn't mean your computer does!
>>>> 4. If you get the "demo version, can't save log" message, 
>>> don't ignore
>>>> it...make a hard copy of your changes before exiting, either by
>>>> capturing a screen dump or by printing the modified portion 
>>> of your log
>>>> (if the program lets you).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 5.  If you contacted KTØK on late 18 October thru early 19 October 
>>>> UTC, drop me an email with the QSO info!!
>>>>
>>>> Greg KTØK
>>>>
>>>>
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