John 



I have GROUPS 0, 1, 2, and 3defined. 



If I search for any of the 4 groups by group number I get only those QSOs for 
that group.  When I total the number of QSOs I selected in FILTER (group)  of 
the 4 groups I get the total number of QSOs in my log. That tells me the filter 
function by groups is working properly. 



Not sure what you mean by illogical fashion.  I defined my needs for groups and 
the log does sort (filter)  by those "needs", in  otherwords, "my groups". 



I have my entire log for N7KA going back to June 1978 is entered into DX4WIN.  
Group 0 identiined as all QSOs prior to 01 JAN1983 (the date that VUCC 
started).  I lived in Tucson, AZ in 01 JAN 1983 so have defined Group 1 by the 
6 digit grid square I was living and operating from.  Group 2 is defined by my 
current 6 digit grid square beginning 24 FEB, 1985.  Group 3 is defined as the 
grid square I operated portable on 6M Sunday 20 June 2010.  They all sort 
properly when I select FILTER and enter the group number. 



At start-up my correct group 2 is displayed in the QSO WINDOW GROUP box.  (that 
is what I have set as default)  If I change and SAVE the group number in the 
FILE|PREFERENCES|QSO group box, this becomes the group number displayed in the 
QSO WINDOW upon starting the program.  You MUST do QSO|Real-time after the 
program is booted to set the program to begin logging for the day, otherwise 
you get data from the last QSO entered in your log.  BTW all 4 of my groups do 
come up at start if I have defined a group as the default. 



l also keep my group number and description written on paper and  stored in my 
manual as backup; group number description, date range, and any other info I 
determine is relevant. 



73 de Arne N7KA 




----- "John Shaw" <jns...@internet.co.nz> wrote: 
> Using version 8.04. 
> When I set the group to "0" in the preferences and then go to real time 
> entry the group is "0" so I cant reproduce your result for that one. 
> If I set the group in preferences to a group not previously set up and go to 
> real time entry it does come up as the group set and will log it as such. 
> As a consequence after that if I go to "Filter|Edit Group Names" the new 
> group generated this way does not show up in the list  and am not being able 
> to use Filter|Select to find that QSO, it can be searched for by using F8. 
> Since F8 search can be used it can be set to another group using 
> QSO|Multiple QSO Operations. 
> So other than being able to do something in an illogical fashion it would 
> seem to be function ok.  If I want to have a new group of QSO's I have 
> always generated the new group by using the Filter|Edit Group Names function 
> before logging or importing a QSO to that group in my log. 
> As a aside note I don't log any QSO's to group "0", start from group 1 then 
> you will be able to do a group filter search for any and or all QSO's in the 
> log. "0" is a group of everything, including itself, a group of all groups 
> if you like. 
> 73 John ZL1BYZ.
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