As a long time user I absolutely agree with the sentiments expressed in this thread.
73, Kjell, PB3SM - SM6CPI > -----Original Message----- > From: DX4WIN [mailto:dx4win-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On > Behalf Of RadioDen45 > Sent: 18 October 2015 15:52 > To: Gerben A.Menting - PG5M; DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Dx4win] DX4WIN Status -- Observations > > Avid users of DX4WIN have been offering to pay for updates > for many years > now with no reply.... Sad but true, DX4WIN is still be best > logging program > I have ever used.... > > Regards, Dennis, k0eoo > > -----Original Message----- > From: Gerben A.Menting - PG5M > Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2015 4:29 AM > To: DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Dx4win] DX4WIN Status -- Observations > > I'm also willing to pay. > > 73, Gerben - PG5M > > -----Original Message----- > From: DX4WIN [mailto:dx4win-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On > Behalf Of WB3AAL > Sent: Saturday, October 17, 2015 22:07 > To: '(K7ZO) Scott Tuthill'; 'dx4win@mailman.qth.net' > Subject: Re: [Dx4win] DX4WIN Status -- Observations > > Hi Scott and all, > > I would be up to paying for a new version or upgrade!! > > Been using the DX4WIN since the early years. Great logging program. > > 73 > Ron Polityka > WB3AAL > > > -----Original Message----- > From: dx4win-boun...@mailman.qth.net > [mailto:dx4win-boun...@mailman.qth.net] > On Behalf Of (K7ZO) Scott Tuthill > Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2015 1:00 AM > To: dx4win@mailman.qth.net > Subject: [Dx4win] DX4WIN Status -- Observations > > First -- to answer AD1C's question I believe 8.05 was > released in January > 2011. Before that 8.02 was released in September 2009, 8.03 > in December > 2009, and 8.04 in May 2010. > > Second -- to echo other similar comments I am a very long time user of > DX4WIN, since the late '90s. The fact is DX4WIN still works > and does what I > need it to do and does it efficiently and reliably. But, my > expectations are > simple: keep track of logs and QSL cards, help me track DXCC, > and be my > day-to-day real time spot processing, logging, and rig > control system. The > log management use is not to be underestimated: between my > K7ZO log, my YN5Z > log, and NK7U's logs, the later for whom I have been the > manager for 20+ > years, I have about 400,000 QSOs to keep track of and I > respond to 1,500 QSL > requests a year. Certainly there are more things I use a > computer for in the > hobby, but I use other software for them. I did look at > Log4OM a year or so > ago as a modern version of a logging program and software suite. It > certainly does a lot more than DX4WIN but converting my logs > over was going > to require a huge amount of manual work if I wanted to retain > detail beyond > basic QSO data. Yes, some of the Log4OM features could be > added to DX4WIN. > But, this leads to the next point. > > Third -- if we really want Paul to add features to DX4WIN we > need to make it > worth his while. Someone's comment mention how using DX4WIN > has saved them > from years of upgrade bills. However, this also means that > Paul does not > have a financial incentive to spend time on DX4WIN. In other > words, we are > getting what we pay for -- nothing. (Other than AD1C's > amazing work which > earned him deserved recognition at Dayton.) So we should not > complain. And > there are some among us who regularly spend way more on > various pieces of > station hardware who would vocally object to a annual > software maintenance > fee. The N1MM+ development team, who are motivated by > something other than > money, have lowered our sense of the value and worth of > software. That is > fine for them, but it is not fair to expect all other > developers to follow > the same path. I have no idea how many DX4WIN users there > are, nor how much > they are willing to pay for a new release of DX4WIN addressing the top > requests. I would encourage those that want improvements to > DX4WIN to rally > the user base and present a financial case to Paul for the > work. Other than > that, perhaps there is a way to open source the code and let > others add to > it. And, if Paul rationally does not want to spend time on > the software > going the open source route might be a great solution for him > and for us. > > Just my two cents worth. > > Scott/K7ZO > > ______________________________________________________________ > DX4WIN mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > ______________________________________________________________ > DX4WIN mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > ______________________________________________________________ > DX4WIN mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > ______________________________________________________________ > DX4WIN mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ DX4WIN mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/dx4win Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
