All of us are witness of very poor upgrade of Dx4Win . For instance
implementing MMTTY.   OK , Dx4Win is commercial programme but question is
"is it enough bangs for buck", especially in time when you can find more
then few freeware logbooks with significant improvements.  Certainly not.
If one day  Jim decide to abandon Dw4inx what is future of programme? Just
my two cents.  PS sorry for my poor english but I believe that you will
understand the point.
Vy 73 de Branko 9A7YY.

ned, 12. sij 2020. u 15:14 <dx4win-requ...@mailman.qth.net> napisao je:

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> Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2020 07:59:33 -0600
> From: Raymundo Rodriguez <rrd1...@gmail.com>
> To: Ricardo Navarrete <ricardoea...@gmail.com>
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> Subject: Re: [Dx4win] Updates
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> > I agree to Paul, Ricardo, Joe, Hamad, etc. about the FT8 update. It
> could be nice to have.
>
> Raymundo Rodriguez - YS1RR,
> Ingeniero Industrial, mba
>
>  Enviado desde mi iPhone X
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> > El ene. 11, 2020, a la(s) 5:30 a. m., Ricardo Navarrete <
> ricardoea...@gmail.com> escribi?:
> >
> > ?Totally agree.... It coul be a great update!!!
> >
> >
> >
> > El s?b., 11 ene. 2020 9:28, Hamad 9K2HN <9k...@9k2hn.com> escribi?:
> >
> >> I totally agree, and i hope to see this new features soon in dx4win
> >>
> >> de 9K2HN
> >> Hamad
> >>
> >>> On Sat, Jan 11, 2020, 09:12 OZ0J Joe <cont...@oz0j.dk> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hi
> >>>
> >>> I agree to Paul about the issues mentioned below. It could be nice to
> >> have
> >>> these services implemented.
> >>>
> >>> 73 Joe, OZ0J
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> -----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
> >>> Fra: dx4win-boun...@mailman.qth.net <dx4win-boun...@mailman.qth.net>
> P?
> >>> vegne af n...@vci.net
> >>> Sendt: 10. januar 2020 00:34
> >>> Til: 'Paul GRANGER' <f6...@hotmail.com>; 'REFLECTOR dx4win'
> >>> <dx4win@mailman.qth.net>
> >>> Emne: Re: [Dx4win] Updates
> >>>
> >>> Paul, I agree that we need direct logging via UDP broadcast with
> >>> WSJT-X/JTDX.  Especially before the 6 meter E season this summer.
> >>>
> >>> 73,
> >>>
> >>> Dave, N4QS
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: dx4win-boun...@mailman.qth.net <dx4win-boun...@mailman.qth.net>
> On
> >>> Behalf Of Paul GRANGER
> >>> Sent: Thursday, January 9, 2020 5:20 AM
> >>> To: REFLECTOR dx4win <dx4win@mailman.qth.net>
> >>> Subject: [Dx4win] Updates
> >>>
> >>> Hi all
> >>> To the developper team,
> >>> Can we caress the hope of having next release to allow dX4Win to
> >>> interoperate with WSJT/JTDX for direct logging, automatic upload to
> >>> ClubLog,
> >>> automatic/easy procedure to upload/download to/from LoTW.
> >>> LoTW/ aand Clublog operation has an application that works well with
> >> other
> >>> logging f=programs : it is called L32LogSync. Could something
> equivalent
> >> be
> >>> expected ?
> >>>
> >>> I hope to get an answer, as many users I am sure would love thse to be
> >>> imlemented.
> >>>
> >>> 73
> >>> Paul F6EXV
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> Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2020 14:13:03 +0100
> From: "ON4AOI" <on4...@skynet.be>
> To: "'Paul GRANGER'" <f6...@hotmail.com>,       "'REFLECTOR dx4win'"
>         <dx4win@mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: Re: [Dx4win] Updates
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> Paul (F6EXV) and others HNY 2020,
> Concerning your wish list I have some serious doubts if this be a full
> idiot
> prove upgrade.
> With the option "Enable logged contact ADIF broadcast" Paul, I should write
> the program"DX4WIN" can listen
> to the UDP broadcasts when using the latest versions of WSJT-X - MHSV -
> JTDX
> and log that contact.
> - But what about WSJT or other programs without this option that users may
> use ?
> - These programs depend on Hamlib radiofiles and I know 100% sure there are
> Rigs that are not supported
> or give errors all the time.
> - In this case you have to disable your rig and use the program like it is
> except for fox-hunt it will work ok,
> but when you change bands and forget to change to the correct band your log
> will be incorrect.
> That's why I have been always against auto upload to LoTW-eQSL-Clublog
>
> "IF" Auto upload to LoTW- eQSL - Clublog would be a fact
> "THEN"  it will create so much garbage and keeping those servers busy all
> the time
> like It is already with eQSL.
> Daily I get wrong eQSL's in my inbox, most of the time its wrong band or
> mode....
>
> My point is that grabbing broadcasts from the UDP server and log it would
> be
> a nice feature
> but
> Never auto upload like some other programs do and create massive garbage.
>
> Manually creating LoTW etc uploads doesn't consume that much time and in
> case something is wrong
> With your log you normally will see it b4 you upload.
>
> My 2 cents
> Guy ON4AOI - OT7K
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dx4win-boun...@mailman.qth.net <dx4win-boun...@mailman.qth.net> On
> Behalf Of Paul GRANGER
> Sent: Thursday, January 9, 2020 12:20 PM
> To: REFLECTOR dx4win <dx4win@mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: [Dx4win] Updates
>
> Hi all
> To the developper team,
> Can we caress the hope of having next release to allow dX4Win to
> interoperate with WSJT/JTDX for direct logging, automatic upload to
> ClubLog,
> automatic/easy procedure to upload/download to/from LoTW.
> LoTW/ aand Clublog operation has an application that works well with other
> logging f=programs : it is called L32LogSync. Could something equivalent be
> expected ?
>
> I hope to get an answer, as many users I am sure would love thse to be
> imlemented.
>
> 73
> Paul F6EXV
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> Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2020 14:13:41 +0000
> From: Paul GRANGER <f6...@hotmail.com>
> To: ON4AOI <on4...@skynet.be>, 'REFLECTOR dx4win'
>         <dx4win@mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: Re: [Dx4win] Updates
> Message-ID:
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> Hi Guy, Hi all
> I am not a specialist, but what is the problem when the FT8 (to make it
> short) programs get the frequency from the rig (therefore is correct),
> logs it into the adif file that everyboidy knows about, and DX4Win can
> "eat" that informlation automatically ?
> I see no room for mistakes...
> Well, I must admit I see no way how you can make a mistake using ythose
> programs and call o the wrong period, like several people have done. If
> yoy doucble-click on the station you want to call, there is no way you
> can do a mistake,... Anyway, this is another matter...
> Which other programs do not have the UDP broadcast ? Anyone here using
> them ? Or just the 3 you mentioned ?
>
> If people's logs have mistakes, whether they auto-upload or they upload
> later, they will both carry the error....
>
> My 3 cents !
> 73
> Paul F6EXV
>
> Le 12/01/2020 ? 14:13, ON4AOI a ?crit?:
> > Paul (F6EXV) and others HNY 2020,
> > Concerning your wish list I have some serious doubts if this be a full
> idiot
> > prove upgrade.
> > With the option "Enable logged contact ADIF broadcast" Paul, I should
> write
> > the program"DX4WIN" can listen
> > to the UDP broadcasts when using the latest versions of WSJT-X - MHSV -
> JTDX
> > and log that contact.
> > - But what about WSJT or other programs without this option that users
> may
> > use ?
> > - These programs depend on Hamlib radiofiles and I know 100% sure there
> are
> > Rigs that are not supported
> > or give errors all the time.
> > - In this case you have to disable your rig and use the program like it
> is
> > except for fox-hunt it will work ok,
> > but when you change bands and forget to change to the correct band your
> log
> > will be incorrect.
> > That's why I have been always against auto upload to LoTW-eQSL-Clublog
> >
> > "IF" Auto upload to LoTW- eQSL - Clublog would be a fact
> > "THEN"  it will create so much garbage and keeping those servers busy all
> > the time
> > like It is already with eQSL.
> > Daily I get wrong eQSL's in my inbox, most of the time its wrong band or
> > mode....
> >
> > My point is that grabbing broadcasts from the UDP server and log it
> would be
> > a nice feature
> > but
> > Never auto upload like some other programs do and create massive garbage.
> >
> > Manually creating LoTW etc uploads doesn't consume that much time and in
> > case something is wrong
> > With your log you normally will see it b4 you upload.
> >
> > My 2 cents
> > Guy ON4AOI - OT7K
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: dx4win-boun...@mailman.qth.net <dx4win-boun...@mailman.qth.net> On
> > Behalf Of Paul GRANGER
> > Sent: Thursday, January 9, 2020 12:20 PM
> > To: REFLECTOR dx4win <dx4win@mailman.qth.net>
> > Subject: [Dx4win] Updates
> >
> > Hi all
> > To the developper team,
> > Can we caress the hope of having next release to allow dX4Win to
> > interoperate with WSJT/JTDX for direct logging, automatic upload to
> ClubLog,
> > automatic/easy procedure to upload/download to/from LoTW.
> > LoTW/ aand Clublog operation has an application that works well with
> other
> > logging f=programs : it is called L32LogSync. Could something equivalent
> be
> > expected ?
> >
> > I hope to get an answer, as many users I am sure would love thse to be
> > imlemented.
> >
> > 73
> > Paul F6EXV
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