Well Ron I guess i dont remember this issue from my old trusty IC-735 that I 
just loved but decided for some reason to sell it and buy a TS-570 that I 
really never liked so thats why I went back to Icom.. At least you guys 
answered my question and ill just deal with it. Not being much of a contester 
and more of a DXer its not that big of a deal. I do appreciate your going the 
extra mile to make Icom see it the right way. I wonder why they refuse to fix 
it? Shouldnt be that big of a deal.. I di look a Yeasu again but I haven had 
one of those since the early days with my FT-101 :)... I like the Yeasu but I 
didnt get the optional plug in module stuff on the hi end rigs. If its a hi end 
rig then why do or would I pay extra to make a better reciever?.. I looked at a 
lot of rigs and read a ton of reviews before making my final decision last 
November and im happy with my choice so like I said ill deal with it. 
Thanks 
Dave 

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ron Stordahl N5IN" <ronn5in-dxba...@yahoo.com> 
To: "Brendan Minish" <ei6iz.bren...@gmail.com>, n8d...@comcast.net 
Cc: Dxbase@mailman.qth.net 
Sent: Sunday, October 4, 2009 10:09:03 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: Re: [Dxbase] Ideas. Rig control overhaul 


Dave N8DC et al: 

Brendan has given you the correct answer on this nagging problem! A few years 
ago I was really on the warpath regarding the inability of the ICOM series of 
radios to read the status of split. The radio has several pages of commands for 
everything imaginable, things you will never use, but misses this fundamental 
command. The other manufacturers who provide a computer interface and offer 
split do allow you to read the status of split. Without this capability if you 
read VFOa and VFOb, and you can do that, lets say VFOa comes back as 14195.00 
KHz and VFOb comes back at 14002.00 KHz would it be correct to issue a spot of 
FT5GA 14195.00 QSX 14002.00? If course not! So without being able to request 
the radios status, i.e. is it currently in SPLIT or is it not, you can't 
generate a reliable spot. 

This is not a DXBase problem...no logging program can do what is impossible. 
This ICOM problem is regularly complained about on other logging forums as 
well! 

I took it up with the ICOM USA manager, who was very receptive to my efforts 
and said he would contact Japan regarding it. This went on for a few years, and 
he told me at the Hamvention in Dayton that ICOM Japan simply ignores the 
issue. A close friend, who knows the President of ICOM Japan took the issue up 
with him, and it went nowhere. I could hardly believe it, now I know better, 
that when the 7800 came it out didn't correct the problem, and later radios 
also ignore it...but they do let you inquire about all kinds of useless 
information about the radios, such as the current position of the noise 
reduction knob! 

I have posted the issue to many ICOM forums as well. 

I have given up! No longer will I ever purchase an ICOM radio again! 

The current definitions for many of the ICOM radios in the radios.ini file were 
updated by myself, and Brendan also had a hand in polishing these. 

So in short it is hopeless, and aggravating! In just the last week when I have 
been working FT5GA and posting spots when I issue as spot thus: 
Output>Packet>Send Internet Spot I have to copy the contents of VFOa and paste 
to VFOb, and hand modify VFOa and send the spot. What a pain, and this results 
in errors and reluctance to post such spots. 

ICOM is hopeless! I think I will take a cold shower! 

Ron, N5IN 



From: Brendan Minish <ei6iz.bren...@gmail.com> 
To: n8d...@comcast.net 
Cc: Dxbase@mailman.qth.net 
Sent: Sunday, October 4, 2009 7:20:42 AM 
Subject: Re: [Dxbase] Ideas. Rig control overhaul 

On Sun, 2009-10-04 at 12:10 +0000, n8d...@comcast.net wrote: 
> Good Morning Neal.. 
> while were on this subject can your or anyone else tell me why my 756 pro III 
> wont report the split frequency when I spot a country ? 

Because ICOM's Protocol does not provide any way to read IF the rig is 
in Spilt TX or not, It can be set but not read. this applies to all of 
ICOM's radios, including the 7800, 7600 etc 

There is no command or sequence of commands that can be used to 
ascertain if the radio is currently in Split TX or not, you can read VFO 
B but you can't tell if it's the current TX VFO or not 

You can take this up with ICOM (as many have in the past 15 years or 
so..) but I suspect your request will fall on deaf ears 



-- 
73 
Brendan EI6IZ 

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