At 11:44 AM -0400 06/15/2001, George Matyjewicz wrote:
>At 08:58 AM 6/15/2001, James M. Ray wrote:
>> >>From: Jay Ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>...
>>
>>Sheesh. Silly forged spam.
.....
>
>Sure Jim.  I believe you ;-).

That's "Mr. President." ;)

>You are 100% right with e-mail.  The problem is how do we get the 
>uninformed of the world to not be so dumb as to answer this 
>"official"  (at least looking) notice?  There was a case in NYC 
>area where somebody put a sign up on the ATM that is was out of 
>order, and to place your deposits in the box below.  And people 
>actually did that!
>
>I'm sure there are many people online who will fall for 
>this.  So, what do we all do?  And a sometimes typical implied 
>answer like "don't be stupid" doesn't work.  That message that I 
>received looked very official.  And Jay Ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> sure 
>does sound official.

Well, another clue is that they capitalized the "e" in e-gold (and a
lower-case e seems to be e-gold Ltd.'s only bow to cyber-hipdom,
if that's a word). Anyway, another clue is that there is nothing in 
the account user agreement about inactive accounts being any
problem (AFAIK, but please read for yourself if you're in doubt!).
Why should e-gold Ltd. care if you go on vacation for six months
with a big wad of green paper and never TOUCH a computer? (I
think it sounds like a great idea, some days!:)

Anyway, what I do is all I can, which in this case isn't much. For
example, I can make all SORTS of security suggestions before
the fact, but they tend to be in-one-ear-and-out-the-other until
AFTER bad things happen. *sigh* 

Apologies for a very long URL, but here's _another_ example: 

http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/zd/20010614/tc/word_flaw_opens_door_to_trojan_horse_1.html
 

Can I force folks here (and especially those not even on this
list, and who don't check the free-market.net board) to read it?
Nope. All I can do is hope...

As I've said before, computer security is a *process* and there
are professionals in the business who know (and charge) LOTS
more than I do and make it their full-time job. All I give is free
advice (which may well be worth it!). 


One suggestion I liked was made a while back (disclaimer, I'm a
Mac user and a fan of Apple, despite their self-destructive history
as a company) -- Buy one of the new iBooks for $1200, or get an
old 386 box and install (Linux, *BSD, whatever) if you're cheap.
Above all, stay away from scam-sites and "HYIP" schemes, and
delete all spam.

At the very least, if you are using Windows, do what it takes to
secure the box, and keep up with this stuff. None of this is fun,
and doing this will NOT solve all your security problems, but it
WILL make you a lot harder to attack than the typical Windoze
user is right now. IMNSHO, YMMV, speaking only for myself, etc.
JMR

http://www.free-market.net/forums/e-gold0008/messages/513418576.html

http://www.free-market.net/forums/e-gold0008/messages/501571999.html 

and most of all --

http://www.free-market.net/forums/e-gold0008/messages/249450184.html 

will help you to secure your computer, but none of this is an exhaustive
list, so read security BOOKS! 
JMR


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