Someone (Viking?) was implying that the ADS in magazines SUPPLEMENT 
magazines incomes -- ie, mazgines/newspapers get income from the 
cover price.

That is not correct (the cover price is all-but irrelevant), 
magazines, like all media, are simply things that exist because of 
advertising.  People sit down and go "whats a new way to sell ads - 
oh I know, we'll do a motorbike magazine / a business magazine / a 
women's magazine".  It's not the other way around.

But don't take my word for it, I've only ever bought a couple hundred 
million of magazine ads on three continents, I asked a mate who does 
the finances for newspaper empires, "M, what percentage of a 
newspaper or magazine's income is derived from the cover price. I 
thought it was nothing, but you tell me to be sure..."

At 11:29 PM -0500 6/21/01, - - wrote:
>It is around 0 - 2 %, it covers the cost of printing if they are 
>lucky. Just an example, a full-page ad in the Wall Street Journal is 
>$110,000. Since a magazine or newspaper has to have at least 50% 
>editorial (that's why you get all these shit articles when you buy a 
>fat magazine - they have more ads then content, so they just make 
>stuff up!) you can do a simple calculation. Today's WSJ has 108 
>pages. Assuming they have an equal split that's 54 "pages" of ads. 
>Factoring out volume discounts and small ads pay more per square 
>inch, you can assume the average page cost is still 110k. $110k x 54 
>is $5,940,000 - just for today!
>
>The only reason they charge a cover price is to offer a "discount" 
>to subscribers, so that subscribers feel good for getting a 
>'dicsount' (it's normal 'price-point' decision making like for many 
>products). They could give a shit what you pay, but the only thing 
>that counts for determining ad rates is your subscriber base. That 
>is why magazines are obsessed with getting and retaining 
>subscribers, and keep sending you the magazine for life even if you 
>stop paying - the more you have the more you can charge for ads. 
>There is an entire independent bureau that monitors this because it 
>is so important.
>
>It is definitely a good business. Remember the guy I told you I 
>worked for that is now at AOL Time Warner and is on the Forbes 400 
>list? He started out by producing the "Mac Buyers Guide". All it 
>was, was a list of all the software you could buy for the Mac and he 
>hired some guy to write some reviews. He expanded into gaming and 
>all the *fringe* electronic stuff in the eighties. He sold it, for 
>stock, to AOL very early on because they wanted his most valuable 
>asset "his subscriber list". The damn stock is now worth over $140 
>million!! (At the time the stock was only worth 20 million, but 
>still quite a haul.)
>
>Publishing is the way to make some big bucks fast. (think Citizen 
>Kane) The problem is finding a niche that can generate a shit-load 
>of subscribers!
>
>Probably a lot more than you wanted to know, but hey, I had a few 
>minutes to spare!! Have a great trip!
>
>--

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