Dear Craig, Hello! Gee it is great to hear from you.
> I think the action GoldMoney took was appropriate. Spiffy! >However, you don't KNOW that the GoldMoney holding > ...is associated with escrow-trade.com. Aha! Let me tell you how GoldMoney.com learned of that number! I *found* it on the escrow-trade.com web site! Then I received it in an e-mail from escrow-trade.com! Isn't that cool! > Someone gave you that number Yes! Someone at Escrow-trade. Twice! > and they may have made a mistake. Rough rocks. > Moreover, the owner of the holding may be on vacation, >or otherwise unavailable for response at this time. Sure, may be. But, the evidence appears to be that the owner of the holding is on uBid.com with very aggravating frequency, seeking "suckers" for her PT Barnum act. Yes, the "chain of evidence" in this case sucks. But, the business relationship with a digital gold currency owner is not governed by any sort of "innocent until proven guilty" or presumption of innocence legal regime. Instead, it is governed by, in fact, the very whim of the owner. A gold merchant here in town has a buzzer on his door, and a gun behind the counter. He likes the cut of my jib, so he buzzes me in. While I was in the store with him one time, he buzzed in a customer who proceeded to put something in his pocket. Was he putting it in his pocket to check out the fit? For another perfectly innocent reason? We'll never know. What I know is that the merchant stopped in mid-sentence, said, "Mr. Davidson please step to your left" and brought the biggest rifle I'd seen in a long time (Maadi Griffin .50 cal) out from behind his counter. "You! Put my merchandise on the counter next to you right now! Fine. With your hands UP, get to the door. When it buzzes, you leave, you never come back." Now, that isn't what James Turk did in this case. I think he was gentle, in fact. > That's a statement of agreement. Based on recent action, yes. Based on communication? Not hardly. E-gold did to escrow-trade.com's account what GoldMoney did to their holding. If I am not mistaken, both actions arose as a result of my sending them message text from escrow-trade with a highlight about the accounts. I got the first copy from a customer of mine, then went to escrow-trade.com and got a confirmation copy of the same message with the same numbers. I agree, and I think Graham said he agrees, with what was done by e-gold. But where is the e-gold anti-fraud action hotline e-mail address? Where is the link to "e-gold's anti-fraud action" web page? Don't know. I haven't seen these. Last week? Last week we did $105K in revenues, while I took care of three people wanting to pour about $5K into escrow-trade's maw. This week, our company is on track to do $300K in revenues, and I have had four phone calls and five e-mails on escrow-trade, and the week isn't over. Over $15,000 in escrow-trade "business" has been diverted. I got my happy keester out of bed at 1:15 a.m. to take a call from a man in California with a huge appetite for laptops who was all a-twitter about his uBid.com "find" and the goodness of escrow-trade. I am not a big "law and order" guy. But, frankly, if the Amsterdam police were to visit this escrow-trade person and string her up to a lightpole with her own intestines, after a suitable trial by jury convicts her, I would not shed a tear. Business is about being kind and gentle to the customers, and as vicious as necessary to the criminal. The criminal who steals or defrauds is adding to the cost of business, and deserves all the kicking around he gets. Frozen account? That's gentle. When the customer who was away on vacation notices, that account could be unfrozen. Meanwhile, the spoils of crime are now secure from further loss. Perhaps, someone who has a complaint against escrow-trade.com can make an appeal for the account history on this account, and get some relief, some part of their gold back. That, by the way, would be my philosophical position: the criminal must pay compensation until the harm done has been remediated. Sure, it wouldn't bother me to see capital punishment implemented in cases where guilt is certain, but compensating the victims is the only thing that really matters. Regards, Jim http://goldbarterholdings.com/ --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.