From: "C. Cormier - Ormetal Inc." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> On 23 May 2002, at 13:12, Kenneth C. Griffith wrote:
>
> > 1. Ownership must be specific: ...
>
> Why must it be specific? There is no need to.
>
> There are many exemple in real life of this kind of ownership. They
> call it undivided property. Very often used in real estate.
>
> Basically, in the GoldMoney system,  the user owns an undivided
> part of a gold pool that he can transfer. First, before we go further,
> do we agree on this?

I think that's the whole sticking point, Claude.  Ken does not agree with
this premise.

Basically Ken is saying that you must be able to point to a distinct piece
of something and say "that's mine."  If you can't pick it up and carry it
away with you, you can't own it.  (When I put it that way it sounds kind of
absurd, doesn't it?)

Personally, I don't see why I can't own an undivided interest in something.
Let's say I'm in a rural area and several of us share a common water well
and reservoir.  Maybe I purchase a certain portion of the water capacity in
gallons/minute.  That's clearly an undivided interest.  It sure seems like
ownership -- I could potentially sell all or a portion of my capacity to
others.  Come to think of it, companies do this kind of thing all the time
with network bandwidth.

I think Ken has some very good things to say and writes some great articles,
but if we don't agree on this fundamental premise then we will ALWAYS arrive
at different conclusions, no matter how we hash out the subsequent
arguments.  The premise of ownership of undivided interests is fundamental.

-- Patrick


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