On Sat, 2010-11-20 at 20:50 -0800, David Miller wrote: 
> From: Joe Perches <[email protected]>
> Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 18:38:01 -0800
> 
> > Using static const generally increases object text and decreases data size.
> > It also generally decreases overall object size.
> 
> Joe, I'm going to be frank and say that I'm not going to review and
> apply such a large chunk of networking patches.

Hi David.  No worries.

> Separation is cool, splitting up patches is cool to make review
> perhaps easier and more distributed.

I know you have ownership of netdev.  Thanks for doing all that
work.  You may not get enough feedback on the very good job that
you do at it.

I posted these patches not so much to get you to immediately pick
them up, but to get review from and/or notify the maintainers of
each of these subsystems.  I would have submitted them to Jiri
Kosina/trivial, but he asked me to post and track these style
patches separately and wait for a few weeks before submitting any
remaining patches not picked up by maintainers to him.

> It severely negatively effects my mood,

Can't have that...

> You also make this more difficult for me by not using GIT.

I do of course use git locally.  I have a public tree as well,
but I hardly update it.  I updated it recently for this.

These patches are available in:

  git://repo.or.cz/linux-2.6/trivial-mods.git 20101121_net_next_static_const

Perhaps I should ask Stephen Rothwell to include some trivial tree
branch like this in next.

> Even with patchwork helping me significantly, it's still a lot of work
> to apply large sets of patches.

I think that cc'ing netdev is always appropriate for netdev patches, but
maybe [email protected] could become [email protected] or
something like that.

Perhaps there could be some way to automatically mark these exceptionally
trivial patches as something like "not applicable" so they don't appear
on your personal queue.

> If I had to take in John Linville's
> wireless stuff without GIT I'd be banging my head on a wall.
> 
> And these incessant huge patch bombs also take time away from me for
> the things I'd like to at least occiasionally work on that involve
> more intellect than monkeying around with such mindless patches.

Establishing trust is always a long term thing.
Breaking trust is easy too.

Anyway, I think these patches are obvious and correct and can be
directly applied without significant risk.

I think the the issues are:

o should the nominal maintainers of the subsystems pick them up
o should these subsystem maintainers should be bypassed
o should the subsystem mailing lists be cc'd
o should these be pulled as a single changeset or multiples

I think that getting the nominal subsystem maintainers involved
is good, but perhaps not too necessary for these sorts of patches.

btw: it doesn't seem that, other than John Linville for wireless,
you currently pull from many (any?) other people.  Do let me know
if you'd consider pulling these sorts of changes from me.

$ git log --merges --since=2-years-ago drivers/net | grep "^Author: " | sort | 
uniq -c | sort -rn
    259 Author: David S. Miller <[email protected]>
    201 Author: Linus Torvalds <[email protected]>
     45 Author: John W. Linville <[email protected]>
     15 Author: Russell King <[email protected]>
     15 Author: Ingo Molnar <[email protected]>
     14 Author: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <[email protected]>
      7 Author: Russell King <[email protected]>
      6 Author: Jiri Kosina <[email protected]>
      4 Author: Reinette Chatre <[email protected]>
      3 Author: Roland Dreier <[email protected]>
      3 Author: James Morris <[email protected]>
      2 Author: Tony Lindgren <[email protected]>
      2 Author: Grant Likely <[email protected]>
      1 Author: Stefano Stabellini <[email protected]>
      1 Author: root <[email protected]>
      1 Author: Paul Mackerras <[email protected]>
      1 Author: Kevin Hilman <[email protected]>
      1 Author: James Bottomley <[email protected]>

> Thanks for your understanding.  Feel free to submit this stuff in
> smaller chunks, say ~10 patches at a time.

Let me know if you want to pull or want them in smaller chunks in
say a month from now.

cheers, Joe


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