I'm never in favor of gratuitously upversioning the EE, but we have said
(even in 3.x) that if there is a reason for requiring JDK5 (or later) for a
particular plug-in, then that's what we should do. The only real question
is "How good does the reason have to be?" <g>. For e4, we want the new API
we create to have a natural, modern expression, but we still have to be
sensitive to cases like the one below.

If the eSWT community indicates that they will _actually_consume_ the CSS
work (if it is F1.1 compatible) it seems like we would want to try and get
there -- Having more consumers of the work is a good thing.

It's a hard sell though if this is just about eSWT being a potential target
for e4 in the abstract. We haven't ever said that we are going to constrain
the widget set to be eSWT compatible, and in fact are considering a
superset of the current SWT as the target (i.e. new capabilities from AIR
and Silverlight).

(and no, that wasn't a definitive answer (/em winks)),
McQ.


                                                                       
  From:       Kevin McGuire/Ottawa/i...@ibmca                           
                                                                       
  To:         [email protected]                                       
                                                                       
  Date:       15/12/2008 11:36                                         
                                                                       
  Subject:    [e4-dev] JDK level for e4 work?                          
                                                                       






Hi all,

I'm a little confused about what JDK level we said we'd use for e4 work.

In the former e4-incubator mail list [1] we said, "We'll discuss at the
summit".  In the summit notes I see lots of discussion [2] but no
conclusion.  I was not in that session, so perhaps there was a conclusion
that I missed/was missed in the notes?

In doing the recent CSS work I set the dependency as JDK1.5 because that's
what I saw in the following projects:
org.eclipse.e4.ui.services
org.eclipse.e4.ui.workbench

Many would like 1.5 for various reasons (myself included), but as in the
email below, those in the embedded space would naturally like something
more like Foundation 1.1.

We need a definitive answer to avoid costly reworking of code to a lower
JDK level.

Regards,
Kevin

[1]
http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/eclipse-incubator-e4-dev/msg00234.html

[2] http://wiki.eclipse.org/E4/Architectural_Foundations see "Summit Notes
for Java 5/supported platforms"

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 I have been trying to get the existing code working with the eRCP
runtime. The good news is after a few hours of hacking and commenting
I was able to get it working. I am now wondering what are the platform
targets for the CSS engine. We can possibly help with the existing
code base to complete it and make it compatible with CDC FP 1.1
(better yet CLCD 1.1 ) also add eSWT and eJface support. Are those
things in the interest and target of the css related work?
--
Gorkem
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