Hi, Farinam, Rouzbeh, Nicolas, Ludovic at Analog and Sagem : We are astonished of having no anwser at all :-( We expected at least something from you for end of last week, like "we're working on it" or "ok, with the planning" or "ok for CMVs, your proposed implementation should work" or "GPL is indeed a good choice, let's go".
Please, keep us informed of what the following steps are for you. Any question is welcome, we'll try to find answers, as there are not that many problems but plenty of solutions. Regards Ben'. aka baud123 Benoît Audouard a dit : > Hi, > I'm BCCing Sagem & ADI - as I've not (yet) been authorized to publish > their internal e-mail - and sending this mail on our public ML for > status report. > From now on, I think that discussions are to be made public, for the > sake of end-users as they are our first contributors ; ADI / Sagem make > your choice ;-) and use "reply to all" (you can open a free mail account > if you're only afraid of spam : it remains limited on our ML thanks to > gna.org which hides mails on archives publicly available at > https://mail.gna.org/public/eagleusb-dev/ ). > > As you can see at > https://sourceforge.net/project/stats/index.php?report=last_30&group_id=81588 > the downloads are slightly increasing following the announce of > eagle-usb-2.0.0 release the 7th November : we reached rank 670 at > sourceforge instead of 1200+ before, with more than 200 downloads on the > 13th Nov 2004, for approximately 150 downloads before the 7th. The new > driver has been download 864 times between 7th and 13th november on > sourceforge and the french article at > http://www.eagle-usb.org/article.php3?id_article=46 > currently has been seen 2440 times (more than 300 unique users a day). > Ok, I'm fond of stats, though at 76,25% they are proved false (we have > other download areas and there's a page in english). > > On the forum, only two new questions arise, out of standard ones : - > Fedora core 3 : kernel-source is not needed any more (good news) - OPTN1 > : for Free dégroupé the download is divided by 10 (appr.) so we have > identified one more CMV file (2 in France) > > I've seen that CVS remained frozen last week (or nearly...) so here are > the next steps that ensure we move forward and do not have too much > extra work : > - we have to update source-files wherever needed (action : Tux, Sl33p3r, > mcoolive, me), to reflect that the driver is *indeed GPL* as already > stated before (we should have done this before), we currently miss > sourcecode only for firmware & DSP code > - take into account CMVs for each ISP (instead of country) : we'll > suppose that FR04 ("Free dégroupé") uses a new CMV file CMVepFR04.txt > (same as CMVepFR.txt without OPTN1 to avoid having download rate divided > by 10...) as long as we have no explanation of the reason why... I wish > I could obtain all answers to the questions available at > http://dev.eagle-usb.org/wakka.php?wiki=DevEagleUsbIII > we have some answers, but our proposal of managing CMVs depending on ISP > rather that country-only did not get any answer ? It makes me doubt, at > times, that we all work for the same goal : it should simply work for > the end user. A first "common version" with ADI/Sagem can show it and we > will manage remaining bugs with our user support forum at > http://forum.eagle-usb.org and/or with new versions (2.0.1 may be > followed by 2.0.2 if needed or subtantial update made). > - all changes required for debian / Mandrake / gentoo packages can be > done - all changes correctly identified for FHS are welcome (we should > be compliant soon), thanks mcoolive for modifications already > implemented ;-) - eagleconfig should take into account an API to change > parameter files (nearly done, documentation needed for implementation in > Mandrakelinux/Drakconnect for example... or debconf to avoid duplicating > configuration for ISP...). I think I'll have a database based on > adsl_const.pm to generate necessary code (for eu_config_bash, > eagle-usb-utils.config, ...) which will avoid manual update. > > For ADI : well, now it's time to have a *real* look to what we > identified as "longer term requirements". One month has gone by, I hope > you've organized to address the remaining issues : > - of course, we promote a GPL license that would ease our common work > http://dev.eagle-usb.org/wakka.php?wiki=HowToGPL > - we made our requirements clear from the start : > http://dev.eagle-usb.org/wakka.php?wiki=RequirementsEagleUsbGPL > and hope you can agree with most of them as stated with our introduction > http://dev.eagle-usb.org/wakka.php?wiki=DeveloppementGPL (any question > welcome) > - Sagem and ADI will be able to distribute the driver freely on their > website, stating that GPL is respected, giving the source code (and > taking it to your advantage, that's the role of your public-relations > service ;-) ). > > Our main priority is documentation for the driver (if already freely > available, otherwise your support is really a plus for all of us - all > the more, if it is publicly available - there are not that many > questions). ADI's choice is the license, GPL being the easiest for all > of us : that requires letting the sourcecode free for remaining > firmware/DSP code : your core business at ADI being to produce chipsets, > I still do not see any objection to releasing the sourcecode ? Do your > manager(s) agree ? Please, identify your business choice that can > satisfy the end-user : if you have any question, we can contact your > managers and business managers to explain the benefits from GPL for the > end-user and clarify our > requirements. > - we do enjoy getting information you provide us, to take into account > new chipsets and make them work (which we did, thanks to Sagem and ADI). > Now we have to release a common version for the end-user's benefit. > > For the forthcoming version, I wish Analog and Sagem could benefit from > a GPL-release annouce on all media we have access to. Involve your PR in > it if needed, so that we can come to an agreement on a win/win basis. We > can prepare this properly so that it benefits us all. > The planned timing could be as follows (proposals welcome) : > - ASAP : ADI agrees with GPL-licensing officially (we may need a written > agreement) > - now : tests with latest DSP code provided + CMVs enable (to avoid > regressions) > - 1st December : official complete release as GPL by ADI, Sagem and us - > 15th december : distribution on CD for ISP (I let you make your remarks > to get a stable version to respect this deadline). > - 25th december : Christmas as always ;-) > - 1st January 2005 : let's begin a new collaboration on clear grounds > for the end-users' benefit, respecting your business choice at ADI and > Sagem. > > Looking forward to hearing from ADI publicly and user comments, you're > welcome (no troll please ;-) ). > > @++ > Ben'. aka baud123 > > > > _______________________________________________ > Eagleusb-dev mailing list > [email protected] > https://mail.gna.org/listinfo/eagleusb-dev
