> At this time, build 629 is so far ahead of v2.5.x that I am beginning to
> wonder: what will it take to screech this train to a halt briefly and get
> release version of v3.0 rolling?

But they list the intended feature list right on their web site:

http://www.intellij.com/eap/products/idea/ariadna.jsp

I presume until that list is done we won't see a v.3.0.

Kirk

"David Goldstein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:aeqat9$8sk$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I enjoy the feature list, and have built a lot of respect for the
JetBrains
> guys for their responsiveness to this very busy list.
>
> At this time, build 629 is so far ahead of v2.5.x that I am beginning to
> wonder: what will it take to screech this train to a halt briefly and get
> release version of v3.0 rolling?
>
> You see, as long as we all drive so hard on those have-to-have features,
and
> the JetBrains folks don't draw that "line in the sand", this sucker will
> just keep on rolling, and the bigger it gets the harder it is to test.
>
> For myself, and I submit to the community here, I would like to see the
> focus shift soon (after the JDK1.4 build, 630, stabilizes) to
> production-quality tuning:
> - memory management
> - performance
> - winding down the feature-adding machine to GUI tweaks
> - prioritized bug fixes
> - use an INSTALLER (a-la InstallAnywhere or another top-notch installation
> tool) - it will pay off many times over, versus rolling your own or using
a
> minimum-cost tool.  What you're paying for is that critical great first
> impression, and for their thousands of hours of getting the cross-platform
> and platform-specific issues ironed out (security, saving user-specific
> settings, licensing, etc).
>
> Perhaps the APIs need to follow their own timeline though.
>
> IMHO the time is nearing to unleash this awesome new rev on the rest of
the
> Java community.
>
> It is exactly because the JBs have been so responsive that I worry that
they
> may feel only pressure to keep adding features, and no pressure to drive
> this sucker to a release.  It would be selfish and long-term
> counter-productive for us as a community to not encourage this shifting of
> gears and let these guys continue to earn a living and be rewarded for
their
> good work!
>
> ...and by the way, are we going to have to break the bank to pay for
> upgrades to 3.0?  I'm afraid that my company won't shell out another
200-400
> per user to upgrade just about 1 year later... that would push me back to
> 2.6 once my last EAP cycle runs out oh the HORROR! (the Delegate Methods
> feature alone has saved me hours of work, and the code folding really
helps
> my productivity in large classes...)
>
> Also, I would like to urge the JBs to move soon on the installer if they
> still intend to do so and ship anytime in the next 6 months.
> Not to assume that anybody isn't well educated, but I just want to warn
you
> (collective) that the trouble of building a reliable install program is
> rarely taked about, but is significant.  It often takes many cycles of
> correction and wide field testing to really get it right; especially when
> it's cross-platform!
>
> Thanks and best regards,
> DaveG
>
>
>


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