I also would prefer that dependent modules also get unloaded.

Thanks,
Cormac.


On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 10:25 AM, Heywood, Todd <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi Pablo,
>
> Yes, something like that. If you Google on this subject, a number of sites
> utilizing modules come up that says that dependent modules get unloaded
> when "module unload" is done. I don't really know modules though, so am
> unclear on the different results from doing "module load" and "module
> unload" on the same file, where the file has conditionals that load
> unloadewd/undefined dependencies, and also unload dependencies that are
> loaded/defined. Would running "module load" twice result in unloading? :-)
>
> Easybuild developers: this would be a reasonable (optional) feature
> request, maybe?
>
> For right now, I think "module purge" is usable.
>
> Todd
>
> From: Pablo Escobar Lopez <[email protected]<mailto:
> [email protected]>>
> Reply-To: "[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>" <
> [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
> Date: Thursday, January 30, 2014 at 12:01 PM
> To: "[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>" <
> [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
> Subject: Re: [easybuild] module unload for toolchains?
>
> maybe this is what you are looking for:
>
> https://github.com/hpcugent/easybuild-framework/issues/714#issuecomment-26036880
>
> You can modify your modules like this or modify easybuild to automatically
> generate the modules like this. I think the place to tweak is here
> https://github.com/hpcugent/easybuild-framework/blob/master/easybuild/tools/module_generator.pybut
>  the EB developers can give you better advice about this.
>
> Another option is teaching your users to user "module purge" when they
> need to switch to a different application...
>
> regards,
> Pablo.
>
>
> 2014/1/30 Heywood, Todd <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
> Hi Fotis,
>
> Thanks. That may be fine if you are building your entire installation with
> Easybuild. But here we already have an installed base (stable, with a
> number of older versions), and I would like to use Easybuild for extra, or
> bleeding-edge versioned software.
>
> So the next thought is how to let users know which modules they will need
> to unload (for the dependencies of the module they load). Any ideas?
>
> Todd
>
> From: Fotis Georgatos <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]
> ><mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>>
> Reply-To: "[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]
> ><mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>" <
> [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]><mailto:
> [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>>
> Date: Thursday, January 30, 2014 at 10:39 AM
> To: "[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]><mailto:
> [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>" <
> [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]><mailto:
> [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>>
> Subject: Re: [easybuild] module unload for toolchains?
>
>
> Dear Todd,
>
> On Jan 30, 2014, at 4:33 PM, Heywood, Todd wrote:
> Details: I have built Python3 for the goalf toolchain:
> Python/3.2.5-goalf-1.5.12-no-OFED. This uses GCC 4.8.1, while our "default"
> GCC is older. If someone with other software build with our 'default"
> installations wants to use Python3, they would do "module unload
>  Python/3.2.5-goalf-1.5.12-no-OFED" after their program finishes. But the
> newer GCC 4.8.1 remains in the environment, and their other software may
> crash since it was built with and older GCC (libraries).
>
> At the moment, we consider this more of a feature than a bug:
> you take the pain of unloading the modules if you really intend
> to try the ABI compatibility between different modules.
>
> The approach that we all take is, to stick to 2-3 toolchains
> and build all the relevant modules for them...
>
> Then, we encourage users to pick early on their toolchain "space" and,
> then potential compatibility issues are greatly reduced.
>
> best,
> Fotis
>
> --
> echo "sysadmin know better bash than english" | sed s/min/mins/ \
> | sed 's/better bash/bash better/' # Yelling in a CERN forum
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> Pablo Escobar López
> HPC systems engineer
> Biozentrum, University of Basel
> Email: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
> Phone: +41 61 267 15 82
> http://www.biozentrum.unibas.ch
>



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Scientific Computing
Idaho National Laboratory
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