Hi all, Guix is interesting, but here in Groningen we explicitly chose for EasyBuild over Guix for all or HPC stuff for various reasons, but the most important ones for us:
* EB can be deployed and run without root privileges whereas Guix requires root at least to install (that was already a show stopper) * EB has a nice community of bioinformaticians, so we don't have to create each and every package/config from scratch Especially the first one is essential for us as we have divided management into: * sys admins with root privileges for the OS and basics. * deploy admins with elevated (but no root) privileges for all our "scientific software". (This is a group of bioinformaticians, who are no experts in system management nor in security.) This setup simply won't fly with current Guix. Cheers, Pi > On Nov 18, 2015, at 01:32, Kenneth Hoste <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi Malcolm, > > I think the issue is that there are no Guix or Nix people around at a > Supercomputing conference. > > I'm aware of it, and want to play around with it, but haven't found the time. > > There is work being done on it though, see for example > http://arxiv.org/pdf/1506.02822.pdf . > > > regards, > > Kenneth > > On 18/11/15 00:21, Ewan Higgs wrote: >> Hi Malcom, >> I don't think you're missing the point. Kenneth has spoken to the guix and >> nix people at fosdem this year but afaik theres no work to support >> scientific software in guix. >> >> That said, its probably a great solution. How might we migrate eb and lmod >> to utilise guix? >> >> Ewan >> >> On 17 Nov 2015 4:56 pm, "Cook, Malcolm" <[email protected]> wrote: >>> Hi, y'all, >>> >>> Alas, I was not present at SC15 nor the BOF. >>> >>> Do you think the guix package manager deserves a place at this table? >>> (http://www.gnu.org/software/guix/) >>> >>> I'm surprised to find it missing from the fray. Or am I missing the point? >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Malcolm Cook >>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Kenneth Hoste [mailto:[email protected]] >>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 2:43 PM >>>> To: EasyBuild <[email protected]> >>>> Cc: Todd Gamblin <[email protected]>; Ewan Higgs <[email protected]>; >>>> lmod-users <[email protected]>; Helmar Burkhart >>>> <[email protected]> >>>> Subject: [Lmod-users] Getting Scientific Software Installed BoF at SC15 >>>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> All materials from the "Getting Scientific Software Installed" BoF >>>> session at SC15 are now available at >>>> https://github.com/hpcugent/easybuild/wiki/SC15-BoF-session . >>>> >>>> The session included lightning talks on Lmod, EasyBuild and Spack + an >>>> interactive survey & discussion. >>>> >>>> The session was really well attended, with about 120 people finishing >>>> the interactive survey we ran during the 2nd half of the session. >>>> >>>> Thank you to everyone who joined the BoF! >>>> >>>> As a reminder, related sessions this week at SC15 include: >>>> >>>> * Tue Nov 17th - 3.30pm (room 13B): BoF session on Performance >>>> Reproducibility in HPC >>>> (http://sc15.supercomputing.org/schedule/event_detail?evid=bof145) >>>> * Wed Nov 18th - 11.30am (room 18AB): Spack paper presentation >>>> (http://sc15.supercomputing.org/schedule/event_detail?evid=pap264) >>>> * Wed Nov 18th - 2pm: Lmod hands-on tutorial @ TACC booth >>>> >>>> >>>> regards, >>>> >>>> Kenneth >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Lmod-users mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/lmod-users > ------------------------------------------------------------- phone: +31 6 143 66 783 e-mail: [email protected] skype: pieter.online -------------------------------------------------------------
