I guess in a way I could do that now anyway... just wrap it all up in a .tar.gz and let people install as they like and set their ROBOT as they like. e.g.
http://www.siliconslick.com/easybuild/ebfiles_repo_cleaned/ada-30sep2016.tar.gz Would be enabled with: EASYBUILD_ROBOT=$EASYBUILD_ROBOT:<wherever the above was unzipped>/ada or similar. Doesn't have to be a full yum dependency thingie, just an easy/standard way to share (beyond/with git). jack (not up on git yet) [*] Obviously, mixing dependencies from different repos may have severe consequences. (much like yum) On 09/30/2016 05:57 AM, Pablo Escobar Lopez wrote:
2016-09-30 12:32 GMT+02:00 Jack Perdue <j-per...@tamu.edu <mailto:j-per...@tamu.edu>>: Not saying they are well tested or the best builds but having repos that you could enable/disable at will to search for easyconfigs would be nice. I like the idea! Being able to define an extra list of git repos or local folders for "eb --search" sounds nice and should help for collaboration. Many times some easyconfigs are difficult to get merged to the main repo for technical reason or lack of time and this could help (e.g. I don't use to search in Jack's published easyconfigs but if I could add them as an extra "search repo" it would be helpful) On 09/30/2016 05:20 AM, Joachim Hein wrote: > Looking at your argument, the alternative to my original > proposal might be an option to not list “attic” items. > IMHO this would work better. If anyone gets annoyed because he gets too many search results from "attic" he would look at the docs to see if this can be disabled. The other way around I think it wouldn't work that good because people could just don't notice that there is an option to get extra search results. I am thinking about new easybuild users. For we two or anyone else following this discussion both options would work because we are aware of this detail. I agree that "eb --search foss" provides too much output. I always try to search for the app name and not the toolchain name and then do some grep with the ouput. Btw, side node, whatever is the final decision about how "eb --search" should work it would be nice to try to keep it "grep friendly" regards, Pablo. > Anyway, even nowadays I treat EB configs/block that are old as “as is” > and do not report them as broken. I have seen a fair number of > failures in about 1/2 year of easybuilding. I don’t even keep a > record. Not worth anyone’s time I think. > > Best wishes > Joachim > > >> >> My fear about not searching by default in legacy easyconfigs is that >> many people would skip the extra option needed to search in the >> legacy easyconfigs and they wouldn't notice that it's there. Many >> times even if the legacy easyconfig doesn't work it can be useful as >> a start point to write a new one so it's useful to find them easily. >> I know many of us are sysadmins and we like to reply RTFM but >> easybuild has many many different config flags and it's easy to skip >> this one ( even for a sysadmin ;) >> >> regards, >> Pablo. >> >> 2016-09-30 11:41 GMT+02:00 Joachim Hein <joachim.h...@math.lu.se <mailto:joachim.h...@math.lu.se> >> <mailto:joachim.h...@math.lu.se <mailto:joachim.h...@math.lu.se>>>: >> >> Hi Kenneth, >> >> I had a look into the notes and think some extra discussion is >> required on the “discontinuation business”. Not sure where to >> start this, so I am replying here. >> >> I occasionally get requests for “historic” and “fossile” versions >> of packages - not all of them totally unreasonable, e.g. API >> change in application. Examples include OpenFOAM and Gromacs. >> Prior to EasyBuild I would have said no, unless you give me a >> strong reason. >> >> With EasyBuild, I check whether a to the user acceptable version >> is in the “back catalog” and try to easybuild it. If it builds >> without much issue I roll it out. If it breaks I am not worse >> off than without EasyBuild. Typically I build with the “old” >> machinery of the time (that is what it was tested with) - >> installing a legacy GCC and OpenMPI in EB is typically easy. >> >> I think here are two big selling points of EB, which we perhaps >> not even push enough. >> >> * Better user experience - many requests for legacy versions >> can easily be supported.It is typically easier to just >> build it instead of discussing with the user. >> * Building software with a tried and tested software stack >> gives stability against bugs introduced in the latest version >> >> >> So, how do you plan to do the discontinuation? Removing >> toolchain versions will break everything that builds on that >> toolchain. Keeping them as “unsupported” seems the way forward to >> me. That is, it is still available in some form but no longer >> tested and fixed. If they still work, good, if they are broken: >> work around it. Introducing an “attic” type concept might be an >> idea. Depreciated packages get to the attic. A typical “eb -S” >> would not show them, but e.g. an extra “attic” or “antique” >> option would. >> >> Best wishes >> Joachim >> >> >> >>> On 29 Sep 2016, at 18:36, Kenneth Hoste <kenneth.ho...@ugent.be <mailto:kenneth.ho...@ugent.be> >>> <mailto:kenneth.ho...@ugent.be <mailto:kenneth.ho...@ugent.be>>> wrote: >>> >>> notes are available at >>> https://github.com/hpcugent/easybuild/wiki/Conference-call-notes-20160929 <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__github.com_hpcugent_easybuild_wiki_Conference-2Dcall-2Dnotes-2D20160929&d=CwMFaQ&c=ODFT-G5SujMiGrKuoJJjVg&r=yuyoBkmTkIQPbv1BTF9U27ww5Lm7GhsMmWcQG9gmjbA&m=dsruO0BSiRbb2--_ejkl40s05biIf_rB6hVUdvKwx7g&s=5hyiSzM0JGyp1qFpXD5FfhEOy9wv3lUrsCTyqyT7nsc&e=> >>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__github.com_hpcugent_easybuild_wiki_Conference-2Dcall-2Dnotes-2D20160929&d=CwMGaQ&c=ODFT-G5SujMiGrKuoJJjVg&r=yuyoBkmTkIQPbv1BTF9U27ww5Lm7GhsMmWcQG9gmjbA&m=QycjT3AMp8mFa5J-RDcs2kGxbKac7JJX5bpmHAd9efw&s=N2C0HQpIsDmyOZxHfPYSEoQ0RWTM6m-qFdrDeiDdQLM&e= <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__github.com_hpcugent_easybuild_wiki_Conference-2Dcall-2Dnotes-2D20160929&d=CwMGaQ&c=ODFT-G5SujMiGrKuoJJjVg&r=yuyoBkmTkIQPbv1BTF9U27ww5Lm7GhsMmWcQG9gmjbA&m=QycjT3AMp8mFa5J-RDcs2kGxbKac7JJX5bpmHAd9efw&s=N2C0HQpIsDmyOZxHfPYSEoQ0RWTM6m-qFdrDeiDdQLM&e=>> >>> >>> Next conf call is planned for Wed Oct 12th 5pm CET, cfr. >>> https://plus.google.com/events/cir0grjke0kbfutgmgp2v9nfm3s <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__plus.google.com_events_cir0grjke0kbfutgmgp2v9nfm3s&d=CwMFaQ&c=ODFT-G5SujMiGrKuoJJjVg&r=yuyoBkmTkIQPbv1BTF9U27ww5Lm7GhsMmWcQG9gmjbA&m=dsruO0BSiRbb2--_ejkl40s05biIf_rB6hVUdvKwx7g&s=oofxZI7k6yU6cYu5IG9n_r72voMixEMUxGnuoME89iE&e=> >>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__plus.google.com_events_cir0grjke0kbfutgmgp2v9nfm3s&d=CwMGaQ&c=ODFT-G5SujMiGrKuoJJjVg&r=yuyoBkmTkIQPbv1BTF9U27ww5Lm7GhsMmWcQG9gmjbA&m=QycjT3AMp8mFa5J-RDcs2kGxbKac7JJX5bpmHAd9efw&s=lqHDMMXzR2b_QOl3MWdeGZ6-K4fq1p9r90SzNOaen7k&e= <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__plus.google.com_events_cir0grjke0kbfutgmgp2v9nfm3s&d=CwMGaQ&c=ODFT-G5SujMiGrKuoJJjVg&r=yuyoBkmTkIQPbv1BTF9U27ww5Lm7GhsMmWcQG9gmjbA&m=QycjT3AMp8mFa5J-RDcs2kGxbKac7JJX5bpmHAd9efw&s=lqHDMMXzR2b_QOl3MWdeGZ6-K4fq1p9r90SzNOaen7k&e=>> >>> >>> On 27/09/16 21:03, Kenneth Hoste wrote: >>>> Dear EasyBuilders, >>>> >>>> The next EasyBuild conf call is planned for *Thursday* >>>> September 29th 2016, 5pm CET; >>>> see also >>>> https://plus.google.com/events/c8tqca652anjfqblifjam5q9s6k <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__plus.google.com_events_c8tqca652anjfqblifjam5q9s6k&d=CwMFaQ&c=ODFT-G5SujMiGrKuoJJjVg&r=yuyoBkmTkIQPbv1BTF9U27ww5Lm7GhsMmWcQG9gmjbA&m=dsruO0BSiRbb2--_ejkl40s05biIf_rB6hVUdvKwx7g&s=YnhaYqK3tc58DLFumAje_sBgXbg5OLxVWJierGFPM1M&e=> >>>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__plus.google.com_events_c8tqca652anjfqblifjam5q9s6k&d=CwMGaQ&c=ODFT-G5SujMiGrKuoJJjVg&r=yuyoBkmTkIQPbv1BTF9U27ww5Lm7GhsMmWcQG9gmjbA&m=QycjT3AMp8mFa5J-RDcs2kGxbKac7JJX5bpmHAd9efw&s=n2yNmrgzxmalXYD5jMGcOalL_vvGx4FsUxv3DSvnIOw&e= <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__plus.google.com_events_c8tqca652anjfqblifjam5q9s6k&d=CwMGaQ&c=ODFT-G5SujMiGrKuoJJjVg&r=yuyoBkmTkIQPbv1BTF9U27ww5Lm7GhsMmWcQG9gmjbA&m=QycjT3AMp8mFa5J-RDcs2kGxbKac7JJX5bpmHAd9efw&s=n2yNmrgzxmalXYD5jMGcOalL_vvGx4FsUxv3DSvnIOw&e=>> >>>> . >>>> >>>> (just this once, I've planned it on a Thursday rather than a >>>> Wednesday due to an agenda conflict) >>>> >>>> >>>> Topics I have in mind include: >>>> >>>> * (very early) outlook to EasyBuild v3.0: default config >>>> changes, (minor) backwards-incompatible changes >>>> >>>> * deprecating toolchains: what & how >>>> * see also >>>> https://github.com/hpcugent/easybuild/wiki/Deprecated-toolchains <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__github.com_hpcugent_easybuild_wiki_Deprecated-2Dtoolchains&d=CwMFaQ&c=ODFT-G5SujMiGrKuoJJjVg&r=yuyoBkmTkIQPbv1BTF9U27ww5Lm7GhsMmWcQG9gmjbA&m=dsruO0BSiRbb2--_ejkl40s05biIf_rB6hVUdvKwx7g&s=s3MlhXRYFw9iU0hdBaOgqFmpgh9EdMg6NLEHljptbPM&e=> >>>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__github.com_hpcugent_easybuild_wiki_Deprecated-2Dtoolchains&d=CwMGaQ&c=ODFT-G5SujMiGrKuoJJjVg&r=yuyoBkmTkIQPbv1BTF9U27ww5Lm7GhsMmWcQG9gmjbA&m=QycjT3AMp8mFa5J-RDcs2kGxbKac7JJX5bpmHAd9efw&s=gSnvv8s_znJmFMPSBIPgAAsZAc8mMg6hAWiO03QUWck&e= <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__github.com_hpcugent_easybuild_wiki_Deprecated-2Dtoolchains&d=CwMGaQ&c=ODFT-G5SujMiGrKuoJJjVg&r=yuyoBkmTkIQPbv1BTF9U27ww5Lm7GhsMmWcQG9gmjbA&m=QycjT3AMp8mFa5J-RDcs2kGxbKac7JJX5bpmHAd9efw&s=gSnvv8s_znJmFMPSBIPgAAsZAc8mMg6hAWiO03QUWck&e=>> >>>> >>>> * update on support for RPATH (WIP) >>>> * >>>> https://github.com/hpcugent/easybuild-framework/compare/develop...boegel:rpath?expand=1 <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__github.com_hpcugent_easybuild-2Dframework_compare_develop...boegel-3Arpath-3Fexpand-3D1&d=CwMFaQ&c=ODFT-G5SujMiGrKuoJJjVg&r=yuyoBkmTkIQPbv1BTF9U27ww5Lm7GhsMmWcQG9gmjbA&m=dsruO0BSiRbb2--_ejkl40s05biIf_rB6hVUdvKwx7g&s=aJpOqAHgHbR8mAdKxZ1Gn8fgInBCmp93Y_L65R8LFMo&e=> >>>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__github.com_hpcugent_easybuild-2Dframework_compare_develop...boegel-3Arpath-3Fexpand-3D1&d=CwMGaQ&c=ODFT-G5SujMiGrKuoJJjVg&r=yuyoBkmTkIQPbv1BTF9U27ww5Lm7GhsMmWcQG9gmjbA&m=QycjT3AMp8mFa5J-RDcs2kGxbKac7JJX5bpmHAd9efw&s=6II9MfeFGUY-xpwQ-GUiv-n-m2x4p8oKd04yCGhzTr0&e= <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__github.com_hpcugent_easybuild-2Dframework_compare_develop...boegel-3Arpath-3Fexpand-3D1&d=CwMGaQ&c=ODFT-G5SujMiGrKuoJJjVg&r=yuyoBkmTkIQPbv1BTF9U27ww5Lm7GhsMmWcQG9gmjbA&m=QycjT3AMp8mFa5J-RDcs2kGxbKac7JJX5bpmHAd9efw&s=6II9MfeFGUY-xpwQ-GUiv-n-m2x4p8oKd04yCGhzTr0&e=>> >>>> >>>> * Q&A >>>> >>>> Suggestions for additional topics are welcome. >>>> >>>> Please let me know if you're planning to attend this conf call. >>>> >>>> More information about the EasyBuild conf calls is available at >>>> https://github.com/hpcugent/easybuild/wiki/Conference-calls <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__github.com_hpcugent_easybuild_wiki_Conference-2Dcalls&d=CwMFaQ&c=ODFT-G5SujMiGrKuoJJjVg&r=yuyoBkmTkIQPbv1BTF9U27ww5Lm7GhsMmWcQG9gmjbA&m=dsruO0BSiRbb2--_ejkl40s05biIf_rB6hVUdvKwx7g&s=M_spkMPn-xQwIgKFwagoua7MvZA95hPSsJkB0O4bFmY&e=> >>>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__github.com_hpcugent_easybuild_wiki_Conference-2Dcalls&d=CwMGaQ&c=ODFT-G5SujMiGrKuoJJjVg&r=yuyoBkmTkIQPbv1BTF9U27ww5Lm7GhsMmWcQG9gmjbA&m=QycjT3AMp8mFa5J-RDcs2kGxbKac7JJX5bpmHAd9efw&s=nABxLrDAlozucg_Duk9GoWHhALQ-rgs7w2oUqJPu7K0&e= <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__github.com_hpcugent_easybuild_wiki_Conference-2Dcalls&d=CwMGaQ&c=ODFT-G5SujMiGrKuoJJjVg&r=yuyoBkmTkIQPbv1BTF9U27ww5Lm7GhsMmWcQG9gmjbA&m=QycjT3AMp8mFa5J-RDcs2kGxbKac7JJX5bpmHAd9efw&s=nABxLrDAlozucg_Duk9GoWHhALQ-rgs7w2oUqJPu7K0&e=>> >>>> . >>>> >>>> >>>> regards, >>>> >>>> Kenneth >>> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Pablo Escobar López >> HPC systems engineer >> sciCORE, University of Basel >> SIB Swiss Institute of Bioinformatics >> http://scicore.unibas.ch <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__scicore.unibas.ch&d=CwMFaQ&c=ODFT-G5SujMiGrKuoJJjVg&r=yuyoBkmTkIQPbv1BTF9U27ww5Lm7GhsMmWcQG9gmjbA&m=dsruO0BSiRbb2--_ejkl40s05biIf_rB6hVUdvKwx7g&s=BLamLEeuceP0DkRu1FyJ7c0svut75GjEcv6TVdW2Poc&e=> >> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__scicore.unibas.ch_&d=CwMGaQ&c=ODFT-G5SujMiGrKuoJJjVg&r=yuyoBkmTkIQPbv1BTF9U27ww5Lm7GhsMmWcQG9gmjbA&m=QycjT3AMp8mFa5J-RDcs2kGxbKac7JJX5bpmHAd9efw&s=nIOTUVJ_iBoI31ySMfWLAJEoa3AdRIR3AZfBUeklBZw&e= <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__scicore.unibas.ch_&d=CwMGaQ&c=ODFT-G5SujMiGrKuoJJjVg&r=yuyoBkmTkIQPbv1BTF9U27ww5Lm7GhsMmWcQG9gmjbA&m=QycjT3AMp8mFa5J-RDcs2kGxbKac7JJX5bpmHAd9efw&s=nIOTUVJ_iBoI31ySMfWLAJEoa3AdRIR3AZfBUeklBZw&e=>> > -- Pablo Escobar López HPC systems engineer sciCORE, University of Basel SIB Swiss Institute of Bioinformatics http://scicore.unibas.ch 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