We have used a toolchain-based naming scheme in the past and moved away
from it because it was too complicated for users (too many levels in the
hierarchy and the naming was very non-intuitive.

On 3 Mar 2017 6:18 pm, "Siddiqui, Shahzeb" <shahzeb.siddi...@pfizer.com>
wrote:

> Hello,
>
>
>
> Specifically for Intel I think for HMNS treat icc and ifort as packages
> and only toolchain have MODULEPATH
>
>
>
> The solution I think could be.
>
> Remove from icc and ifort module the  modulepath for Compiler/intel
>
> Rather have iccifort module have a modulePath for iccifort
>
>
>
> When loading icc or ifort separately you wouldn’t see the modules built
> with intel or iccifortcuda, but rather you would see packages when loading
> the toolchain: iccifort or intel
>
>
>
> impi module would reside in iccifort or iccifortcuda dependening on
> toolchain. The module would be in separate trees.
>
>
>
> When loading either iccifort or iccifortcuda you should see the impi from
> its toolchain tree. The same goes with imkl, it should be in a tree for
> iimpi or iimpic since that is the toolchain used. Both intel and intelcuda
> should be treated as separate module trees. When loading intel it should
> have MODULEPATH for Compiler/intel and intelcuda should have MODULEPATH for
> Compiler/intel-CUDA.
>
>
>
> Intel should load  -> iccifort, iimpi, imkl
>
> Intel Cuda -> iccifortcuda, iimpic, imkl
>
>
>
> No need to have explicit load for icc and ifort in the intel module since
> the iccifort toolchain will take care of this. Keep in mind both iccifort
> and iccifortcuda will load icc and ifort that will come from the same
> module. They would reside under Core/
>
>
>
> If this is done this way we can see the intelcuda tree while having icc
> and ifort loaded since they wouldn’t be loading the intel. In my
> environment, I treat all toolchains as family so that I can’t have an
> instance where intel and intelcuda are loaded at the same time.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* easybuild-requ...@lists.ugent.be [mailto:easybuild-request@
> lists.ugent.be] *On Behalf Of *Alan O'Cais
> *Sent:* Thursday, March 2, 2017 10:32 AM
> *To:* easybuild@lists.ugent.be
> *Subject:* Re: [easybuild] MODULEPATH issue when supporting intel and
> intelcuda toolchain concurrently
>
>
>
> Dear Shahzeb,
>
>
>
> I think this is probably the same (or at least related to the) issue that
> is being discussed in https://github.com/hpcugent/easybuild-framework/
> pull/2135
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>
>
> It also exposes one of the problems of a HMNS, the potential
> non-uniqueness of module names. The problem with not building software with
> minimal toolchains is that you can have multiple copies at various levels
> of your toolchain hierarchy. What module you end up loading is then
> dependent on the order that you load things (perhaps not in Lmod because it
> is hierarchy-aware but definitely for other module tools). This can clearly
> lead to issues.
>
>
>
> Alan
>
>
>
> On 2 March 2017 at 15:32, Siddiqui, Shahzeb <shahzeb.siddi...@pfizer.com>
> wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
>
>
> I seem to notice an issue when building modules using
> HierarchicalNamingScheme when building out the intel and intelcuda
> toolchains.
>
>
>
> I notice that MODULEPATH is set for icc and ifort for intel directory.
> This is correct when setting up intel toolchain.
>
>
>
> hpcswadm@hpcv18$grep -iR MODULEPATH
>
> icc/2017.1.132-GCC-5.2.0.lua:prepend_path("MODULEPATH",
> "/nfs/grid/software/testing/RHEL7/easybuild/modules/all/
> Compiler/intel/2017.1.132-GCC-5.2.0")
>
> ifort/2017.1.132-GCC-5.2.0.lua:prepend_path("MODULEPATH",
> "/nfs/grid/software/testing/RHEL7/easybuild/modules/all/
> Compiler/intel/2017.1.132-GCC-5.2.0")
>
>
>
> impi  gets installed in the path for intel as expected.
>
>
>
> hpcswadm@hpcv18$ls -R /nfs/grid/software/testing/
> RHEL7/easybuild/modules/all/Compiler/intel/2017.1.132-GCC-5.2.0/
>
> /nfs/grid/software/testing/RHEL7/easybuild/modules/all/
> Compiler/intel/2017.1.132-GCC-5.2.0/:
>
> impi
>
>
>
> /nfs/grid/software/testing/RHEL7/easybuild/modules/all/
> Compiler/intel/2017.1.132-GCC-5.2.0/impi:
>
> 2017.1.132.lua
>
>
>
> As for impi built with iccifortcuda it gets installed in
>
>
>
> hpcswadm@hpcv18$ls -R /nfs/grid/software/testing/
> RHEL7/easybuild/modules/all/Compiler/intel-CUDA/
>
> /nfs/grid/software/testing/RHEL7/easybuild/modules/all/
> Compiler/intel-CUDA/:
>
> 2017.1.132-GCC-5.2.0-7.5.18
>
>
>
> /nfs/grid/software/testing/RHEL7/easybuild/modules/all/
> Compiler/intel-CUDA/2017.1.132-GCC-5.2.0-7.5.18:
>
> impi
>
>
>
> /nfs/grid/software/testing/RHEL7/easybuild/modules/all/
> Compiler/intel-CUDA/2017.1.132-GCC-5.2.0-7.5.18/impi:
>
> 2017.1.132.lua
>
>
>
> The problem is when loading iimpic toolchain it loads up icc and ifort
> modules along with impi that belongs to the module tree from intel and not
> intel-CUDA. I am not sure if this is a problem, but it seems like the impi
> is not being picked up correctly.
>
>
>
> hpcswadm@hpcv18$ml av iimpi
>
> ------------------------------------- /nfs/grid/software/testing/
> RHEL7/easybuild/modules/all/Core -------------------------------------
>
>    iimpi/2017.01-GCC-5.2.0 (TC)    iimpic/2017.01-GCC-5.2.0 (TC)
>
>
>
> hpcswadm@hpcv18$ml
>
>
>
> Currently Loaded Modules:
>
>   1) EasyBuild/3.1.0
>
>
>
> hpcswadm@hpcv18$ml iimpic
>
> Currently Loaded Modules:
>
>   1) EasyBuild/3.1.0   3) icc/2017.1.132-GCC-5.2.0   (I)   5)
> impi/2017.1.132 (I)   7) iimpic/2017.01-GCC-5.2.0 (
>
> TC)
>
>   2) GCC/5.2.0         4) ifort/2017.1.132-GCC-5.2.0 (I)   6) CUDA/7.5.18
>
>
>
> hpcswadm@hpcv18$which mpicc
>
> /nfs/grid/software/testing/RHEL7/easybuild/software/
> Compiler/intel/2017.1.132-GCC-5.2.0/impi/2017.1.132/bin64/mpicc
>
>
>
> The one that should be loaded is from
>
> /nfs/grid/software/testing/RHEL7/easybuild/software/
> Compiler/intel-CUDA/2017.1.132-GCC-5.2.0-7.5.18/impi/
> 2017.1.132/bin64/mpicc
>
>
>
> I think the impi module should not sit inside intel directory or somehow
> icc and ifort MODULEPATH need to be changed to intel-CUDA when loading
> iimpic
>
> /nfs/grid/software/testing/RHEL7/easybuild/modules/all/
> Compiler/intel/2017.1.132-GCC-5.2.0 ----------------------
>
>    impi/2017.1.132 (I,L)
>
>
>
> Anyone else come across this issue.
>
>
>
>
>
> Shahzeb Siddiqui
>
> HPC Linux Engineer
>
> B2220-447.2
>
> Groton, CT
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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