I'm good with this. My sourceforge account id is ipmonger.
--jon
On 2013-10-21, at 08:51, Juan Jose Garcia-Ripoll
<juanjose.garciarip...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I am sorry for the prolonged silence. I wanted to give some time for my
> message to settle in the community, but since I have seen a lot of
> interesting discussion we should make use of this momentum to get something
> going.
>
> According to different private emails that I have received, a possible
> reconfiguration of the project would look as follows:
> Dmitri Hrapof, maintainer
> Jon Boone, supporting developer (Common Lisp)
> Matthew Mondor, supporting developer (NetBSD / Linux)
> Juanjo García Ripoll, supporting developer
> Plus whoever wants to contribute more actively. In particular it would be
> appreciated some help on the fronts of regular automated testing and release.
> Note that the degree of involvement can be very minimal: it suffices that you
> build or work with ECL in some platform and provide feedback or patches or
> simply point out problems -- i.e. Android, iOS developers out there could
> become more involved by simply speaking up more frequently.
>
> I just need your ok (and your account names) to redesign the project
> composition in SF.
>
> Once the issue of the team is settled, to get things up and running one
> should make a list of what has to be done. Some ideas though:
>
> - Priority should be to ensure that ECL is working again in all platforms and
> that it is release candidate. I am partially working on this, as I do not
> want the new life of the project to start with a broken software.
>
> - Things that work should not be touched until momentum is gained. The
> compiler is quite ok as it is, and should only be fixed when regressions are
> found in the libraries. This said, I am willing to speak to anybody about the
> internals, either in this forum or by private email or skype.
>
> - Ideas for future changes or known problems could be organized in the form
> of tickets, with us discussing the details below in the "forum-type"
> discussion that pops up. Longer issues could be arranged by email.
> Common-knowledge or things that you do not know about internals would be
> better explained in the wiki, opening a page for the topic and me and you
> filling in information.
>
> - Each of us has their own interests. I have seen very interesting
> suggestions from Matthew Mondor here. Those things should not be neglected --
> I will help you as much as I can on getting you moving on on each of those
> fronts. Some things that have been mentioned by different people
> * Improved embeddability and name convention
> * Improving on streams & input methods (utf, etc)
> * Neglected platforms that depend on separate ports (Android, iOS)
> * New interpreter forms (Here the work of Dr. Schfmeister will probably win
> whatever we think about :-)
> * New FFI's, including C++
> * POSIX libraries
> I believe people overestimate the time / knowledge that is needed to get
> things going in many of these fronts -- the UTF thing, for instance, amounts
> to about 50 lines of code :-)
>
> - I am here to help you with any of the internals or questions. One very
> efficient way of doing that would be to assign tickets to myself on specific
> questions that you are not able to resolve. For that one would have to go
> through SF and create new categories and organize the tickets more cleanly.
> Alternatively we can also create email discussions.
>
> - There are technical issues that we should work together. Multithreading is
> one. Right now the implementation of locks / mutexes / semaphores, etc, is
> based on an idea (a wait queue that implements a per-thread semaphore using
> signals) which I believe is solid, but is giving rise to a lot of problems in
> various platforms. Issues like these depend on long email conversations and
> technical discussions; help is welcome even from non "developers"
>
> - Regular testing has been set up in the past using Anton's library. I can
> pass you the scripts. Benchmarking has also been organized using automated
> scripts that I can also pass you. As I said, this is one of the things where
> a non-developer can really help a lot by providing the infrastructure and
> uploading the information to some public space.
>
> --
> Instituto de Física Fundamental, CSIC
> c/ Serrano, 113b, Madrid 28006 (Spain)
> http://juanjose.garciaripoll.googlepages.com
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