This debate between Jason and Kylie reminds me of a similar one that took =
place in the early 1980s, and I would like to suggest that you read an =
outstanding article by Jean Bethke Elshtain: =22Feminist Discourse and Its =
Discontents: Language, Power and Meaning=22, SIGNS 7/3 (1982) 603-21. But =
two brief quotes seem pertinent here:
=22a feminism that cannot criticize itself cannot in the last analysis =
serve as the bearer of emancipatory possibilities that can never be fixed =
and defined, once and for all=22 (Elshtain, 612). and
=22What is distressing is the repeated evocation in feminist discourse of =
images of female helplessness and victimization. The presumption is that =
the victim speaks in a pure voice: I suffer therefore I have moral purity =
and none can question what I say. But the belief in such moral purity may =
itself be one of the effects of pwerlessness, and that belief, congealed =
in language, is endlessly self-confirming. (Elshtain, 612)
=20
And of course by (electronically) attacking each other and demanding moral =
purity on the basis of gender (or race or nationality) we=27re getting =
even more sidetracked from central feminist and ecological issues. The =
fragmentation of feminism to me indicates how far we=27ve come and how =
tolerant we are. A discourse that allows no room for differing opinions =
and options lacks the dynamism for change and doesn=27t really seem worthy =
of its own designations=21
Maureen Devine
Institut f=FCr Anglistik und Amerikanistik
Universit=E4t Klagenfurt
Universit=E4tsstrasse 67
A-9020 Klagenfurt
Austria
>From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Aug 27 07:42:10 1996
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 27 Aug 1996 08:41:57 -0500 (CDT)
To: mary simmons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: kylie and jason
In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Well put! Thank you for your positive contribution (voice of reason). I
believe that we could all benefit from it. Colette
>From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Aug 27 07:48:00 1996
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 27 Aug 1996 08:47:57 -0500 (CDT)
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: the fragmentation of feminism....
In-Reply-To: <v01510102ae4760e6787f@[203.59.25.175]>
Sometimes one may talk as a feminist without having to speak about overt
feminist topics...
On Mon, 26 Aug 1996, Kylie Matthews wrote:
> the rest of the time is spent
> >talking about trivial (non germane would be a better term) peripheries of
> >feminism.
>
> THis list hardly ever talks about feminism. it is almost entirely devoted
> to environmental issues without a bit of feminism in it. but it is
> certainly interesting that YOU object to what little feminism you may have
> seen. Your posts speak for themselves. I am not accusing you of anything.
> kylie.
>
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>From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Aug 27 12:14:15 1996
Date: Tue, 27 Aug 96 13:12:25 CST
From: jivan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
rev ecofem
>From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Aug 27 12:57:47 1996
Date: Tue, 27 Aug 96 14:56:27 EDT
From: Sandra Russo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: subscribing
To: Ecofem <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
I'm thinking of having my Ecofeminism class signon to ECOFEM. Could you send t
he protocols for doing so? I am also sending this message to Stephanie. Thank
s. Sandra
>From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Aug 27 17:10:17 1996
; 28 Aug 96 10:44:19 +1200
Date: Wed, 28 Aug 1996 10:40:58 +1200
From: "STEFANIE S. RIXECKER" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: fellowship announcement/fwd
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Organization: Lincoln University
FYI. Please contact the people listed in the message; I have no
additional information.
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Fellowship Announcement
The University of Utah Center for Human Genome Research is offering a one year
fellowship for research and teaching in the ethical, legal and social
implications of human genetic research. Applicants from a variety of
disciplines are invited to apply, including (but not necessarily restricted to)
bioethics, philosophy, law, education, public policy, genetic counseling,
medicine, nursing, psychology, public health, history of science, sociology,
anthropology and communications. Applicants must have a graduate level
degree, but individuals from the full spectrum of experience and seniority are
invited to apply. Send requests for information to:
Jeffrey R. Botkin, M.D., M.P.H.
Director, Genetic Science in Society Program
Eccles Institute of Human Genetics
University of Utah, Salt Lake City, Utah 84112
Tel: 801/588-3640, Fax: 801/588-3642
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Department of Resource Management
Lincoln University, Canterbury
Aotearoa New Zealand
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