you didn't make me shout angela! i used all caps so one could distinguished btw your message and my reply. and i have done the same with this message. In a message dated 98-09-10 10:11:40 EDT, you write: << WE HAVE ACHIEVED A LOT THROUGH THE FEMINIST MOVEMENT; >> Hi! Candi sorry for making you shout! Can you please state what you think some achievements are and what else can we do to help the feminist movement? [Churchill, Candi] WE HAVE ACHEIVED THE VOTE, MAKING RAPE BY A SPOUSE ILLEGAL, TITLE 9, HIGHER STANDARDS FOR MEN (I.E., IT ISN'T AS ACCEPTABLE THESE DAYS FOR MEN TO PINCH OUR ASSES OR CALL WOMEN "CHICKS" OR FOR HUSBANDS TO NOT DO ANY HOUSEKEEPING), RAPE BEING EVEN DISCUSSED AS AN ISSUE OF MALE DOMINATION AND POWER CAME OUT OF THE MOVEMENT. IN ADDITION, WOMEN HAVE ORGANIZED AND FOUGHT FOR WOMEN'S STUDIES (AND WON), FOR ABORTION RIGHTS AND ACCESS TO OTHER REPRODUCTIVE SERVICES...I COULD GO ON. WE ARE CUT OFF FROM OUR HISTORY AND DO NOT LEARN HOW THE SUFFRAGETTES WERE RADICAL WOMEN WHO CHALLENGED FATHERS, HUSBANDS, THE STATE...SOME WERE BEATEN, MOST OSTRACIZED. THEY DID IT FOR US. WE SHOULD ALL LEARN THIS, BUT IT IS KEPT FROM US, SO WE DON'T KNOW OUR HISTORY AND HAVE TO REINVENT THE WHEEL INSTEAD OF LEARN FROM THEIR ACCOMPLISHMENTS AND/OR MISTAKES. WE CAN ALL HELP BY JOINING A LOCAL FEMINIST GROUP FIGHTTING FOR WOMEN'S LIBERATION. IF WE CAN'T JOIN AND BE ACTIVE, WE CAN SUPPORT THEIR WORK THEIR MONEY (IF WE HAVE SOME) AND/OR WRITE THEM OR AN EDITORIAL AND SAY THANKS. THE NATIONAL ORGANIZATION FOR WOMEN IS A GOOD START. THERE MAY OR MAY NOT BE OTHER ACTIVE GROUPS. OF COURSE JOINING OTHER NECESSARY MOVEMENTS LIKE THE ENVIRONMENT OR ANTI-RACIST ACTION OR UNIONS HELPS WOMEN AND OUR LIVES TOO, If we can't straighten men out at the time they use oppressive names then when and how? [Churchill, Candi] THROUGH COLLECTIVE STRUGGLE. THAT IS HOW WE GOT HERE AND THAT IS HOW WE WILL GET TO WHERE WE WANT TO BE. I was merely stating that never be silent - it is NOT the woman's fault he called her sweety - it is that maybe he was never TOLD/asked not to! You know? Just don't assume that all men think that all women want to be treated as equal - because I can tell you right now some women actually like being second-class citizens - and keep that spirit alive YUK with Pornography which is a perfect example of that _ it is obvious that women in that smut are treated as sex objects - they(women) don't mind? :let boys be boys and let them have the power is their philosophy - in my opinion THEY NEED HELP! You on the other hand like me and many others - pro-feminist - well we want to be treated with equity and respect - and not as mere sex objects either and deservingly so - but now what I was saying please understand was based on the premise that CLEAR communication is key to resolving any issue - just let them know! When we raise boys who are less sexists and more loving towards the feminine face(s) of creation [Churchill, Candi] WHAT DOES THIS MEAN? then they will grow up to be men who don't insult you or pay you less money for your work because you are female - wouldn't that be grand! [Churchill, Candi] YES When we raise girls not to sell their bodies, dance or pose naked for men to make money and to arouse a man - then these women will be in solidarity to other women who want respect and equity and will help erase the smut of the sex goddess image! Don't get me wrong the human body is beautiful/a temple - yet dancing and/or posing for the mere purpose of arousal is something else all together! Now wouldn't that it be grand if we could raise better adults and not just drop them off at daycares while we pursue careers-something many people blame feminists for - what do you think about that? (REMEMBER: I said some people think - I did not state my personal opinion here!) [Churchill, Candi] I THINK WE ALL HAVE TO WORK TOO MANY HOURS FOR NOT ENOUGH PAY, OUR COST OF LIVING HAS RAISED EXPONENTIALLY WITHOUT AN ADEQUATE RISE IN WAGES. NO ONE WANTS TO LEAVE THEIR CHILDREN IN CHILD CARE CENTERS ALL DAY. WE NEED A STRONGER LABOR PARTY. THEY GOT US THE WEEKEND AND WORKER'S COMP LAWS, AMONG OTHER ACHEIVEMENTS. Children are our countries greatest natural resources! [Churchill, Candi] YES, AND LOOK AT HOW WE VALUE THEM. OUR SCHOOLS ARE SUBSTANDARD, OUR FOR PROFIT HEALTH CARE [Churchill, Candi] LEAVES 40 MILLION UNINSUIRED, ONE FOURTH OF THEM CHILDREN, AND CHILDREN ARE ABUSED WITH LITTLE OR NO RIGHTS. YES WE HAVE A LOT MORE WORK TO DO! Peace! Angela [Churchill, Candi] LOVE TO YOU, CANDI
