In a message dated 98-09-15 10:24:00 EDT, you write:
<< I have found many of your posts enlightening.
>>
Hi! Thanks Bertina - I will stay - If we can keep sharing what we know, what
we believe and what we are learning each day to make things better we can keep
the momentum going to help heal the Eco-crisis. I was thinking today that we
could always find blame - in anything - but the real challenge is to find
solutions to these social and environmental problems and implement them
quickly and efficiently. I am currently looking for a spiritual environmental
listserv - I will continue on this listserv and go with the give and take and
I try to refrain from preaching too much!
Peace and thanks!
Angela
"I offer my eyes to the Earth so that it can have my prespective. Offer all
my senses so that all that I see from this place the Earth can see." John
Seed
Here is a short challenge that I am taking on and invite you to join me:
If an alien came to this planet and asked you this question:
"What is wrong with the Earth? How do you think Ecofeminism can help?
But the alien only had a half hour to hear you out so I had to keep it short
and write it in down for the alien in one or two paragraph - what would you
say and write?
Anyone else want to answer this alien?
Oh - the alien does not know emotions such as love and hate - does not know
what pollution is and does not know about the web of life. So your
explaination cannot be baffling with those words! For example can not say
things like "We have to love more and hate less." Because hate and love are
foreign, undefined words - you have to be more specific!
Thanks!
Angela
>From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Sep 15 12:30:04 1998
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 14:26:06 +0000
From: Vera Britto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Alert: Stop World Bank Loan to Exxon (fwd)
> From: Kenneth Walsh@EDF on 09/15/98 10:33 AM
>
> (Please Forward to other Networks. Apologies for Duplicate
> Listings)
>
> URGENT ACTION ALERT ** URGENT ACTION ALERT
> From: Friends of the Earth and Environmental Defense Fund
>
> STOP WORLD BANK LOAN TO EXXON
> FOR CHAD-CAMEROON PIPELINE
>
> NO FREEDOM - NO PIPELINE!
>
> Should international development assistance from the World Bank
> for two of the poorest countries in Africa be used to support the
> world's richest oil companies? An international consortium
> consisting of Exxon, Shell and ELF is planning a multi-billion
> dollar oil exploitation project with serious environmental and
> social risks that many fear may create another Ogoniland,
> Nigeria's oil-producing region marked by environmental
> devastation and brutal human rights violations. The oil project
> is in Chad and Cameroon, two countries that have few democratic
> freedoms for its people.
>
> The project consists of the development of oil-fields in southern
> Chad, and building a 600 mile pipeline through Cameroon for
> export. But there is a hitch. The project won't go forward
> unless it is supported by public funding from the World Bank
>
> Exxon, the leader of the consortium, refers to the World Bank as
> the foundation of the financing structure for the entire project.
> World Bank officials confirm that the project hinges on their
> participation because the companies need the World Bank involved
> to reduce the financial risk of investing in the politically
> volatile region and to solicit other investors.
>
> The World Bank, whose stated mission is to alleviate poverty and
> to promote sustainable development, is right now seriously
> considering financing this project, even though its environmental
> staff have unanimously rejected the Environmental Assessment and
> have expressed strong reservations about supporting it. The
> World Bank's Board of Directors is expected to make a final
> decision about this project later this year, but the Bank is
> likely to give an informal go ahead in the next few weeks. Exxon
> is sending a small army of lobbyists to Washington, DC to put
> pressure on the World Bank to give its commitment to the project.
>
> The World Bank claims that the project will alleviate poverty
> because revenue from the oil development can be spent on poverty
> programs. But since both Governments have problems with
> corruption, the local communities have little faith that they
> will see any of the money from oil development.
>
> These countries also suffer from human rights problems. The
> international press reports that Chadian government forces have
> resorted to indiscriminate killings and repression of the
> civilian population in the project area. A parlimentarian who
> spoke out against the project was recently jailed for three years
> in Chad.
>
> The 600-mile underground pipeline through Cameroon will pass
> through ecologically fragile rainforest areas, including an area
> that is the home of a Pygmy minority of traditional hunters and
> gatherers. An uncontrollable influx of people in search of work
> will gather at the construction sites. As a result,
> deforestation, wildlife poaching, and the loss of farmland will
> be replaced by construction activities that will create a
> destructive environmental legacy. The pipeline itself, even with
> state-of-the art equipment, poses a danger of groundwater
> contamination and pollution of important regional river systems
> as crude oil containing heavy metals leaks into the environment.
>
> The project also promotes the development of fossil fuels and the
> release of greenhouse gas emissions, the leading cause of global
> climate change. The World Bank should not be financing the
> exacerbation of climate change, but should be financing projects
> that reduce carbon emissions and lead to more sustainable forms
> of energy development.
>
> People in Chad and in Cameroon are poor and in need of assistance
> that will improve their livelihoods and chances for future
> development; not aid that will enrichen transnational oil
> companies and an elite ruling class. The allocation of aid
> dollars for each country is limited and World Bank support for
> the oil project will divert scarce resources away from
> investments in health, education, environmental protection, and
> infra-structure that provides clean drinking water and
> sanitation.
>
> The World Bank should not finance this project at this time as it
> cannot guarantee that human rights will be respected or that the
> environment will be protected. Once the money is flowing, the
> unholy trinity of oil, power and corruption will make corrective
> action difficult. Instead, the World Bank's resources should be
> used for projects which have direct, positive impacts on
> nutrition, health, education, the environment and other
> priorities of the people of Chad and Cameroon.
>
> Take action today to stop this corporate welfare project. Write
> the President of the World Bank, James Wolfensohn, and tell him
> that the World Bank should support human needs, not corporate
> wants!
>
> World Bank President Wolfensohn has the power to say no to this
> project. In early October, the World Bank has its annual
> meeting. Mr. Wolfensohn should announce at that meeting that
> the World Bank will not support this project because of its
> serious environmental and social problems and the lack of
> freedoms in chad and cameroon.
>
> Send your letters, faxes, or email today to:
>
> Mr. James Wolfensohn
> President, The World Bank
> 1818 H. Street, NW
> Washington, DC 20433
> Fax: 202-522-1677
> Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Please send copies of your letters to one of the organizations
> below. For more information, contact:
>
> Korinna Horta Andrea Durbin
> Environmental Defense Fund Friends of the Earth-US
> Fax 202 - 234 6049, Fax: 202-783-0444
> email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Thank you for your support!
>
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>From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Sep 15 14:46:39 1998
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 16:46:12 EDT
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: re Animals do have souls not just instincts
In a message dated 98-09-15 13:47:54 EDT, you write:
<< Yes, Angela, I know what many Christians
believe about animals and I know what many Christians DO to animals - they
murder and eat them and exploit, torture and subjugate them.
>>
Hi!
I can not give you an example of how animals reason - because they do not! As
far as I know anyway - Other animals live by instinct - their brains are
different - Other cultures, exploit, torture and subjugate animals - why point
the finger directly on Christians? There are many Christians who do not
exploit, torture or subjugate animals - the Christian Patron Saint of the
Ecology - St. Francis of Assisi loved animals and did not exploit, torture or
subjugate animals - that is why the Pope appointed him Patron St. of the
Ecology - many people follow his example - and love animals. However, you are
saying that there is still a lot of work to do to teach people not to exploit,
torture and subjugate animals - especially Christians - then I agree - teach
the proper perception that is kindest to all the animals - it is not clear
that we should be all be vegans - because we eat to survive and that is not
greed or avarice! Keeping changing the perception (here's one - that we need
meat for protein - beans can provide that protein) change this perception that
other animal are not worthy of our love and respect - as stewards we should
behave as such - loving and respectful stewards of God's Creation - all of
God's creation including the animals. But again, does anyone have the website
about Jesus being a Vegan?
Peace!
Angela
>From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Sep 15 16:33:26 1998
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 06:33:17 +0800
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: bunny <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: re Animals do have souls not just instincts
Hi Angela,
I just told my cat Mona that she was unable to reason and she promised to
conform to this ideal by stopping her little games that she plays with me.
I also informed my mothers old jack-russell terrier that lives with me that
she was incapable of reason and only acts on instinct. She wagged her tail
and gave me a quizzical smile. Muffy, my house rabbit, was not impressed
when I told her she only acts out of instinct and I told her to start acting
like a rabbit again and to stop climbing up on my bed to see what I'm doing.
Frosty-Jo, my second old house rabbit (she has lop ears) shook her head when
I told her she couldn't reason and followed me down the hallway hoping for a
treat. She thought that if she hung out with me for long enough a carrot may
come her way or maybe she just wanted my company...oops. Never mind...if I
keep up my indoctrination tactics, these creatures may learn to start
behaving like objects governed by insticts and not sentient beings.
Marguerite
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