In a message dated 3/14/1999 7:59:46 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << Here are three quotations supporting my statment about Sudan: Three points: 1. Women are prominent in the sudan Islamicist movement. 2. This movement is utterly undemocratic and has repressed the two major indigenous Arab Sudanese social movements both Sufi (irony of ironies). 3. Even a woman liberal fighting conscription refused to admit slavery which is usually accompanied by enforced circumcision. 1. New Zealand Herald "In Sudan, women are among the most active and visible organizers of the Islamic movement, particularly as teachers." >> Is this what passes for knowledge with you? 1. White men have been prominent in colonialist, capitalist, racist, anti- feminist, anti-environmentalist, Sex-tourist, aborginal exterminationist movements all over the world. You are a white male - by your "supported statement theories" on Sudanese women - you are one of the white men and we should take all of your emails that way. 2. Women are even more prominent in the numerous opposition movements, most notably the Sudanese Alliance. However as a white male - see number 1 - you would never acknolwege this fact to alter your racist, anti-feminist anti- third world liberationist ideology. 3. You cite "a woman liberal" saying something. How many "a white male" can I cite on a number of racist, sexist, oppressive comments - including you? Far more than you can cite Sudanese women. You also wrote " repressed the two major indigenous Arab Sudanese social movements " Arabs are not indigenous to Sudan. What do you define as Arab? Are Nubians Arab? Have you been to Sudan - are those people racially Arabs? Arab by language? Arab by culture? Any clue about Arabism in Africa, Among African countries? Know about the issues of Arabism among Sudanese? My experience has not yielded the mass of Arabs your "considerable knowledge" claims. Of course, your experience is far above mine and any one else who questions you about the Sudanese - even the Sudanese themselves. Only you - no Sudanese women or men- understand justice, liberation and care about their country. 1. Which Islamic movement? Your sentence implies that any islamic movement is negative, thereore any women prominent in an islamic movement are negative and oppressive. However as a white male (by your supported statement standards) you are a racist and will see any movement which involves these women, as members or leaders, as negative. Add me to the group, I am done with the racists and patriarchist white men - they have been revealed. Nicole
