Thank you Stephanie.  I found the recent exchange between joe and nicole 
disturbing.  I don't want to leave the list, but as many others are 
thinking, this ongoing discourse (which has turned into an upsetting sex 
war) is ruining the entire list.

Hayley
>Dear ECOFEMers:
>
>I have already responded to joe dees in a private message, but I 
>also wish my actions to be evident to all list members.
>
>In my private e-mail I explained that I have issued several warnings 
>to a number of ECOFEM participants regarding the multiple 
>breaches of protocol evident on the list.  A few members now have 
>two warnings, and upon the third breach of protocol I will remove 
>the offender(s) permanently from the list.
>
>I am not ignoring the conversation.  It is being observed and 
>appropiate actions will be taken.
>
>Stefanie Rixecker
>ECOFEM Coordinator
>
>
>
>
>
>Date sent:             Fri, 12 Mar 1999 00:21:01 -0500
>From:                  joe dees <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject:               Re: Humanitarian Missions
>To:                    STUDIES IN WOMEN AND ENVIRONMENT 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Send reply to:         [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>
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>
>At Thu, 11 Mar 1999 22:50:50 EST, you wrote:
>>
>>Joe,
>>
>>You don't know what my home country is, the home countries of my 
parents,
>>don't know where I was raised.
>>
>>You also don't know much about humanitarian issues.
>>
>>You also don't know much (if anything at all) about Somali. 
>>
>>Yet, you speak as if you are an expert on all three. And you find 
absolutely
>>no problem with doing that, it seems very natural to you. 
>>
>>Thanks for reminding me the lack of value in talking with you - carry 
on with
>>your ignorant and racist ranting.
>>
>>Nicole
>
>This is a public list appeal to Stephanie Richexter (sp?), the 
arbitrator of this list, to note and
> deal with the vicious personal attacks once again being perpetrated 
against me, for no reason I ca
>n divine, by Nicole.  If you read the posts which I placed to which she 
seems to think this qualifi
>es as an answer, it can clearly be seen that none of them were racist 
in tone, nor were any of the 
>facts I proffered in them substantially addressed, much less refuted.  
How could, and why would, a 
>serious attempt to discuss substantive issues be at all responsible for 
inspiring such venomous vit
>riol?   Perhaps because I dared to have, and even  dared to voice, an 
opinion that might not be abs
>olutely contiguous with her own, even though I cannot know what hers is 
a priori?  Heaven Forfend; 
>as has been richly demonstrated time and again, that sort of 
impertinence in the face of the Omnisc
>ient
>!
>person off list, because she brings them right back on.  You once said 
to me that if this sort of N
>icolean nastiness manifested itself again, that you would deal with it.  
It is now time for this li
>st to see whether you are or are not as good as your word.  As to the 
substance of her continuing a
>ttacks; neither one of us seems to be ignorant, but which one sounds 
racist?  
>Joe E. Dees
>Poet, Pagan, Philosopher
>
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