On Sat, 25 Mar 1995, Jayne S Docherty wrote: > I have a Marxist prof who constantly > classifies all of my work on cognition and the power of ideas/meaning > creation to motivate people in conflict settings as a reversion to an > idealism which denies the power of the "material" world and institutional > relations. He is quite wrong to put me in that box, but it makes him > feel more comfortable because then he "knows" where I am coming from and > he has "set responses" which he feels are adequate to "deal with" me. This is a perfect example of the kind of thing I was trying to address in my rather fuzzy post last week about "going to sleep" and letting assumptions take over ... our culture, and others, actually *encourage* this inclination, as wonderfully described above. > Needless to say, I am stubborn as hell and do not let him get away with > that. But, it is a constant battle and the fireworks around the > department are a constant source of amusement for others. > Go get 'em, Jayne! Faith >From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Mar 27 18:30:07 MST 1995 Date: Tue, 28 Mar 1995 08:29:00 +0800 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kylie Matthews) Subject: Re: materialist ecofeminism >I agree, though I dislike the word materialist(I dont have enough money >to be!!!!!), I guess I am a materialist ecofeminist in that definition of >one. >Bertina Miller >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >On Wed, 22 Mar 1995, Wainwright Joel David wrote: > >> >> I thought I would post my thoughts of materialist ecofeminism in response >> to several recents comments, like this one: >> >> > I must admit that I don't think >> > I understand too well what people on this list mean by "materialist" >> >> I can't speak for others, who may have other conceptions of materialism, >> but I think of materialism as a philosophic position / framework which is >> not "idealistic" (or spiritualistic) in the sense that it does not accept >> non-material (hence the term) ideas or arguments about the nature of >>reality. >> In other words, if someone were to ask me about the world, as a >>materialist I >> would talk about evolution, rocks, animals, people, the atmosphere, etc., >> but I would not talk about spirits or gods. (I don't believe in these >> things.) >> Joel Wainwright To me materialist means something quite diffeerent. I see it as meaning involved with the material more than the spirtual/moral/idealistic. But that this means that a materialist would be aligned with capitalism and be out for a quick buck. This would mean that a materialist would be more likely to be found in the forest industry (turning trees into just a materialist venture) than an ecofem mailing list. I think therefore that we probably need to explain what we mean by some terms particularly those that could be seen as evocative. On a different subject. I have had some problems with my email recently. I did not get the post from Joy Hummingbird that everyones been raving about. i would be grateful if someone could post it to me if anyone still has it . Thanks. Kylie. [EMAIL PROTECTED] The thing women have got to learn is that nobody gives you power. You just take it. -- Roseanne Arnold.
