Greetings to us all,
I wonder why "leaky plastics" wouldn't be relevant to an ecofeminist list,
but then I'm also new, so....
To me, more than a choice of topics, ecofeminism is a whole way of looking
at the world, certainly different from the prevalent trend (mostly based on
raping and plundering nature, on greed and competition) in the world we live
in!
Would it be possible to have a few guidelines on what to post on this list?
Heartfelt thanks to the manager of this list,
Viviane
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Spencer Adams
> Sent: Thursday, November 11, 1999 8:43 AM
> To: STUDIES IN WOMEN AND ENVIRONMENT
> Subject: Re: leaky plastics
>
>
> Hi - gee, I am sorry for possibly sending something out on this site that
> wasn't relevant. I am brand new to this site, and had
> interpreted it, among
> other things, to deal with women in/and the environment - which is a very
> broad category but leaves all sorts of terribly interesting topics of
> discussion. I chose to write about toxics in our environment
> because women
> are especially vulnerable to chemical toxicity, and suffer at a
> much higher
> rate than men - just because we are of smaller stature; it would
> be the same
> sort of thing as knowing that our babies and children are far more
> vulnerable than we, even as women, are. Being aware of these issues, and
> WORKING FOR CHANGE, new legislation, et al, was seemingly an
> issue that has
> to do with both ecology and feminism - issues of our health have
> always been
> very much a focus of the women's movement. Would someone please give me a
> definition of exactly what "ecofeminism" means? Thanks so much! Limaloa
> -----Original Message-----
> From: vikki charles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: STUDIES IN WOMEN AND ENVIRONMENT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Thursday, November 11, 1999 2:24 AM
> Subject: RE: leaky plastics
>
>
> >This is exactly the point I was trying to make a few days
> >ago, asking why stuff of no apparent relevance to feminism
> >is sent out to us all. I know it's an important issue and I
> >don't disagree that something should be done, people need
> >to know abut it, people are evil, whatever, but why send it
> >out to a feminist email group?
> >On Wed, 10 Nov 1999 10:22:45 -0600 "Farris, Sara"
> ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >> Perhaps, but I doubt it. That sounds to me like the shift from women's
> >> studies to gender studies so we can study masculine gender, too.
> Feminism
> >> has always studied men to some degree, but it has always been about
> women,
> >> and that's plenty for me. I don't need my feminism to be humanism in
> order
> >> to feel that it's important. (This is not as cranky as it sounds. I'm
> just
> >> in a rush this morning.)
> >>
> >> Sara
> >>
> >> ----------
> >> From: Spencer Adams [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >> Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 1999 4:23 PM
> >> To: STUDIES IN WOMEN AND ENVIRONMENT
> >> Subject: Re: leaky plastics
> >>
> >> Perhaps it would help to think of "feminism" as "humanism", as what
> >> affects
> >> women affects men too, though perhaps in different ways. But we ALL
> >> are
> >> exposed daily to myriads of toxins in our environments, no matter
> >> how
> >> careful we try to be. We are ALL being victimized by big industry
> >> whose
> >> goal isn't to help keep us well and alive, but only to make lots of
> >> money.
> >> It truly is a matter of circumstance, genetics, luck and goodness
> >> knows what
> >> else, as to who develops cancer or whatever dread condition (there
> >> are
> >> worse!), and who doesn't. One doesn't have to be thinking
> >> fatalistically to
> >> have that happen to one; it just "IS" - a fact of the times within
> >> which we
> >> live. Most people don't want to even think about this, and so it is
> >> labeled, as here in the case of "fatalistic" - so what CAN be useful
> >> is for
> >> us to strive to get the government to change its policies, make new
> >> laws
> >> about toxic substances (I know, good luck - very slow, if ever, in
> >> coming),
> >> AND big industry: DON'T PUTCHASE PRODUCTS FROM COMPANIES WHO
> >> MANUFACTURE OR
> >> ENCOURAGE USE OF THESE TOXIC PLASTICS!! Does anyone have a list of
> >> these
> >> companies (goodness, it could be all of them!)?? Thanks for
> >> listening,
> >> Limaloa
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Farris, Sara <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> To: STUDIES IN WOMEN AND ENVIRONMENT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> Date: Tuesday, November 09, 1999 4:34 AM
> >> Subject: RE: leaky plastics
> >>
> >>
> >> >Now how is that useful? Surely ecofeminism is about more than such
> >> blanket
> >> >fatalism tied, incongruously, with such dippy faith in
> >> individualism. I
> >> >suppose my aunt, age 43, let toxins give her breast cancer and then
> >> let the
> >> >cancer kill her?
> >> >
> >> >Sara
> >> >
> >> > ----------
> >> > From: vikki charles [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >> > Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 1999 6:19 AM
> >> > To: STUDIES IN WOMEN AND ENVIRONMENT
> >> > Subject: Re: leaky plastics
> >> >
> >> > Does it matter? Everything will kill you eventually if you
> >> > let it. It's a question of not letting it...
> >> > On Mon, 08 Nov 1999 22:19:12 -0600 Gwendolyn L Griffin
> >> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > i have heard much about the fact the plastics leach toxics into
> >> >whatever
> >> > > food substance they are holding (incl. plastic soda bottles,
> >> >plastic
> >> > > baggies, tupperware . . . .)
> >> > > that they indeed leach hormonal disrupters which are causing
> >> girls
> >> >to
> >> > > reach puberty prematurely, for one . . .other effects i cannot
> >> >remember
> >> > > . . .
> >> > > does anyone have information on this?
> >> > > thanks!
> >> > > gwendolyn griffin
> >> > >
> >> >
> >> > ----------------------
> >> > vikki charles
> >> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> >
> >>
> >
> >----------------------
> >vikki charles
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
>
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