Maybe the post was a bit exaggerated, the general line is clear, and 
that is that what women experience differs from what men see.

Kim

William Silvert wrote:
> I am surprised at this interpretation of the postings. As I recall, no 
> male poster stated "that gender bias does not exist" although some, such 
> as Gary Grossman, felt that the degree of discrimination had been 
> exaggerated. As for the men who said that "maternity/paternity leave 
> should not pose a problem", the key word here is "should" -- I certainly 
> argued that it should not pose a problem, but that is different from 
> stating that it is a problem.
> 
> I think that most of the male posters admitted that there are serious 
> problems, and some of us tried to point to solutions  It appears that at 
> least in some quarters though we are bound to be condemned. This is not 
> a good way to make progress.
> 
> Bill Silvert
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anita Lahey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU>
> Sent: Monday, November 06, 2006 12:30 AM
> Subject: gender bias: a summary of ecolog-L responses
> 
> 
>> Similarly, on this listserve, 8 out of 9 (89%) women said there is gender
>> bias in ecology/biology, while 3 out of 5 (60%) men said that gender bias
>> does not exist. 3 out of 3 women were not concerned with age bias, 
>> while 2
>> out of 3 men expressed concern about age bias. 4 out of 6 (67%) of women
>> believed that maternity/paternity leave or raising children poses an
>> additional challenge/problem, while 7 out 9 (78%) men said that
>> maternity/paternity leave should not pose a problem. 
> 

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