Thanks to everyone who gave great suggestions for grinding small samples. 
I've included a summary below of all the responses I received.

After experimenting with different grinding methods, our lab has settled on 
the SPEX 5100 Mixer/Mill (a ball mill). It grinds roots, leaves and wood 
samples to a fine powder. One nice feature about it is you can use 
different sized vials, which helps with varying sample sizes. It's 
intermediate in price (more expensive than coffee grinders, but more 
affordable than the highest end grinders) Here's the web-site:
http://www.spexcsp.com/sampleprep/catalog/aid37.html


LIQUID NITROGEN OR MORTAR AND PESTLE
1. We use liquid nitrogen and a mortar and pestle.  It's tedious, but if 
you can't loose sample, it's a pretty good method.

2. For small soil samples, nothing beats the mortar and pestle.  We also 
use a stainless steel rolling pin on a granite surface.

3. After grinding a few thousand leaf samples for my dissertation I have 
come to the conclusion that the most efficient method is using a mortar and 
pestle, with liquid nitrogen, followed by a healthy dose of elbow grease 
and some large paint brushes (for cleaning out the mortars to make sure you 
get the entire sample). Making sure the pestles don't get wet is a big 
concern.  Before I settled on this method, I tried a coffee grinder, but 
found that it took much longer to clean  the coffee grinder, and that the 
samples weren't ground to a fine enough powder, so I had to use the mortar 
and pestle anyway. With 3 people working, I could grind about 300 samples 
in a very focused, 8 hour day (of which it turns out, there are very few 
that occur).

WIGGLE-BUGS AND OTHER BALL MILLS
1. So far the best things we found are the Wiggle-bugs. A shaker arm that 
holds stainless or plastic canisters and ball bearings and shakes them into 
powders.  I have a very small one for periphyton but use a larger one in a 
friends lab.  I'm not sure the manufacturer but could find out.  Fisher 
might sell them.  Good luck and let me know if you come up with
a better alternative.

2. For smaller samples the Wigl-bug, or dental amalgamator, similar to the 
line shown here produce extremely fine powder:
<http://www.medstad.com/product.asp?id=379140>http://www.medstad.com/product.asp?id=379140

The prongs at the top of the device hold a small stainless steel cylinder 
containing the sample and a small steel bead that acts as a pestle.

Other manufacturers offer large devices similar in concept to the wigl-bug:
<https://www1.fishersci.com/Coupon?gid=2796862&cid=1328>https://www1.fishersci.com/Coupon?gid=2796862&cid=1328

3. If you are processing large numbers of samples, you might consider a 
ball mill. One can be made with a paint shaker, processing samples with 
steel BBs inside plastic scintillation vials. One can grind 50 samples in 
the time it takes to put samples and BBs into vials and take BBs out (plus 
a few minutes of shaking time). We use this set-up to grind samples prior 
to chemical analyses and for stable isotopes. Works really well, with 
amazing throughput (relative to a Wiley Mill).

4. We have a Spex Certiprep cryogenic grinder that is excellent for 
grinding and homogenizing the sample types you mentioned.  Our model is 
Spex 6750 but I believe they have a newer version on the market today.  We 
have used ours for about 10 years with minimum maintenance.  It does 
require having consistent access to liquid nitrogen within your lab or 
building. You can contact the Spex Sales rep:

Melissa Davic
Sales Specialist
SPEX CertiPrep Group
SPEX SamplePrep LLC
203 Norcross Ave
Metuchen, NJ  08840
Tel: 732-549-7144 Ext.448
Toll Free: 800-522-7739
Fax: 732-906-2492
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>[EMAIL PROTECTED]

5. We use a Wig-L-Bug grinder (a ball grinder) 
<http://www.reflexusa.com/wiggrinmil1.html>http://www.reflexusa.com/wiggrinmil1.html

6. We have been using a dental amalgamator (Wig-L-Bug from Reflex 
Analytical Corporation) to grind small amounts of leaf and root 
tissue.  Haven't tried it on soils or wood, but I suspect it would work 
well on soils.  Wood might require some liquid N.  The amalgamators are 
cheap, quick, and easy to use.

7. I have personally used wiggle bugs, a ball grinder, wiley mills, and a 
plain old mortal and pestle in my graduate studies which are finally coming 
to a close.  My grinding method of choice would either be the coffee 
grinder or wiggle bug.  However, by using a wiggle bug, your sample volumes 
have to be very small (<1cm3).  For example, I only use the wiggle bug for 
grinding small leaf sections (5-10cm in length) of Phragmites australis for 
pigment analysis.  This is about the maximum capacity for the wiggle bug to 
be effective.

8. The other option is a standard ball grinder. 
<<http://www.vwrsp.com/catalog/product/index.cgi?catalog_number=16003-606&inE=1&highlight=16003-606>http://www.vwrsp.com/catalog/product/index.cgi?catalog_number=16003-606&inE=1&highlight=16003-606>,
 
which I have used as well.  This is essentially a very large wiggle bug. It 
does work very well, but you are limited by the number of grinding chambers 
you can afford, and clean up between samples is the rate limiting step.

For small samples, I found the Braun microdismembtaor to work 
spectacularly.  It is a bit expensive but definitely worth it, especially 
if you have many samples.
<http://www.usedlabequip.com/details.aspx?itemID=2566>http://www.usedlabequip.com/details.aspx?itemID=2566

9. We have used a Wig-L-Bug successfully- we use microfuge tubes with 
stainless beads, rather than the amalgamator capsule, so there is no 
cleaning or cross contamination between samples.  What works even better 
for production scale work is a paint shaker- make a holder for your 
microfuge tubes out of rigid foam, pop a few bearings in each one, and 
shake away. These methods are not effective on woody material- we end up 
pre-grinding stems with liquid N in a mortar, pouring the liquid N plus 
fragments onto weighing paper, and transferring from there into the 
microfuge tube.
      We have also used a Cyclotec grinder for moderate size tissue 
samples.  You haven't defined "small", but I've ground mg-size plant tissue 
samples with the bead-shaker technique.

WILEY MILL
I grind small plant samples for our work including finer grasses like 
Bouteloua gracilis.  We use a baby Wiley with a 20 or 30 seive for these 
samples and it works well.

COFFEE GRINDERS
1. I have most often used coffee grinders (in fact, they are the most 
popular device for grinding leaf/plant samples in my department at the 
University of California, Riverside).  They are small, cheap, and do a 
great job.  They do suffer quite a bit with soil samples (we have ground 
more sand samples that I care to think about).  Eventually, their tiny 
little blades get ground down to a nub.  Of course, they are about $15 to 
replace.

2. I guess it depends on how small your samples actually are and the type 
of wood you are grinding, but we used a metal blade coffee grinder for very 
small samples.

3. I have used a Braun (or similar make/model) home coffee and spice 
grinder with great success and they are readily available, easy to clean, 
sturdy and much cheaper than lab equipment. I did not use it on soil (you 
may reconsider using a grinder for both vegetation and/or soil) but it 
pulverized dried plant material - leaves, stems, seeds etc. to a very fine 
powder. Plants ground included cassava, soy bean, pine needles.

4. I have used a simple coffee grinder to grind samples of a few grams and 
they work well for digestions. loss on ignition and elemental analyzers.

5. I tried a coffee grinder but I could not get the materials fine enough.

6. I have used coffee grinders previously. As long as there is enough 
biomass you should be fine. Like with all grinders there is always the 
possibility of some contamination of metal from the blade but it is often 
minimal and is not of concern if the grinding is not for purposes of 
examining metal accumulation.

7. It may not be as well suited for roots or other woody tissue, but the 
grinder we use quite successfully for soil and foliage is a basic Braun 
coffee mill. They're cheap (about $20), and we modify them slightly by 
fashioning a piece of Plexiglas over the top of the lid so that the 
grinding chamber has about one quarter the original volume. The blades will 
wear out long before an Wiley mill, but at $20 it's a pretty easy thing to 
replace.

8. We use a coffee grinder for small samples.

9. I am currently grinding hundreds of plant samples (mainly Phragmites and 
Spartina), and I would suggest using a modified coffee grinder, such as the 
Krupps one below: 
<<http://www.bedbathandbeyond.com/product.asp?order_num=-1&SKU=10151112>http://www.bedbathandbeyond.com/product.asp?order_num=-1&SKU=10151112>
The only modification would be to fit a piece of plexiglass onto the bottom 
of the clear dome to reduce the volume of the grinder.  By doing this, you 
can consistently grind your samples to a fine powder, which is what I use 
for stable isotope and elemental analysis. Plus, at such a low cost, they 
are easy to replace and purchase multiple units.

10. I worked in a lab where we used an ordinary coffee grinder, but we 
froze the tissue first.

MISC
1. I study seedlings, so I've done my share of small plant 
grinding.  Depending on
the size, I've had good success with the following 3 (not very 
technologically advanced) methods:
test tube with sterilized sand and glass rod to grind (good for VERY small
plants)
mortar and pestle (never fails)
coffee grinder

2. For small plant samples a coffee grinder is pretty good, holding it 
upside down while grinding helps.  I don't know if the Perten mill will 
work with plants (a co-worker uses it for grain).  We also will use the old 
mortar and pestle, cutting the plants first with a scissors to make the 
parts smaller. Also, we have a "mini" Wiley mill.  Just like the large 
size, but ~1/0th the size, this grinds pretty well, but narrow grass leave 
easily fall through
the bottom sieve and don't grind as easily.

3. To finely ground plant samples we prefer to use the UDY mill, but you 
have to be careful with small sample sized.

4. We use a soil mill (Cianflone) for fine grinding of soil for our C & N 
analyses, however we do grind (or crush) the soil first to pass a 2 mm sieve.




------------------------------------------------------------------------
Pamela H. Templer
Assistant Professor
Department of Biology
Boston University
5 Cummington Street
Boston, MA 02215

phone 617-353-6978
fax 617-353-6340
people.bu.edu/ptempler
------------------------------------------------------------------------

Reply via email to